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Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18259] Thu, 09 April 2009 19:28 Go to next message
Kevin Cole
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Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18260 is a reply to message #18259] Thu, 09 April 2009 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AshleyAnne
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Registered: March 2009
Junior Member
Kevin Cole wrote:
> I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.

I tore my ACL and Meniscus about 4 years ago playing ultimate. I was
lucky enough to get a quick surgery date and rehab was grueling for
sure. General scheduling varies but within a week I was walking
without crutches, 2 months I was riding a stationary bicycle, and 6
months I could begin running. They recommended I didn't start playing
until about 9 months but I started playing around 7 "very cautiously"
if you ask my physician. The toughest thing is pushing through when
it feels like you're not accomplishing anything at all. Hope that
helps!
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18262 is a reply to message #18260] Thu, 09 April 2009 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdavis3232
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Registered: March 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 9, 9:48 pm, AshleyAnne <welt...@uni.edu> wrote:
> Kevin Cole wrote:
> > I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> > last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> > summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> > mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.
>
> I tore my ACL and Meniscus about 4 years ago playing ultimate.  I was
> lucky enough to get a quick surgery date and rehab was grueling for
> sure.  General scheduling varies but within a week I was walking
> without crutches, 2 months I was riding a stationary bicycle, and 6
> months I could begin running.  They recommended I didn't start playing
> until about 9 months but I started playing around 7 "very cautiously"
> if you ask my physician.  The toughest thing is pushing through when
> it feels like you're not accomplishing anything at all.  Hope that
> helps!

Kevin,
I tore my ACL last summer and had surgery in October. I came across
this forum and it helped me out tremendously. Take a look and I hope
it gives you some insight and hope.

http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=24293

Barrett Davis
#33 Prairie Fire
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18264 is a reply to message #18260] Thu, 09 April 2009 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ultimatephotography
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Registered: September 2008
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> I tore my ACL and Meniscus about 4 years ago playing ultimate.
> within a week I was walking without crutches

uh. yeah. that's great. congrats.

a single ACL tear is the surgery that they are best at,
and is completely irrelevant to this question.

I tore "only" my PCL and my LCL, and was not fully load
bearing until 5-6 months later, i.e. I was on crutches
for that entire time. Unlike the ACL surgery, they
don't know as much about PCL rehab, and even less about
combo rehab. Maybe things have changed since my
surgery (5 years ago?), but I had to stay off of
my knee for at least a couple months. it is amazing
how quickly muscle degenerates.

The first time I walked 400 meters without crutches
was a big deal, and was at 6 months or so.

Half the rehab was rebuilding muscle. rehab that
lasted for 9 months, at least. But again, maybe
they are better at this now, but with the added
ACL issue, I'm not optimistic.

Good luck, duder.
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18265 is a reply to message #18259] Thu, 09 April 2009 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ryan Kelly
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Registered: October 2008
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On Apr 9, 9:28 pm, Kevin Cole <KevinCC...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.

Is this Kevin Cole from Knox? If so, ask Hollywood (ISU). He did the
same thing at whiteout in January, and he loves talking about it.
Maybe too much...
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18300 is a reply to message #18259] Fri, 10 April 2009 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Douglas T Lilley
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Registered: September 2008
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On Apr 9, 10:28 pm, Kevin Cole <KevinCC...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.

I did roughly the same thing way back in the dark ages (although I
completely severed all three ligaments) and had to get a complete knee
reconstruction using muscle sheath from my thigh. I was in the
hospital for 2 weeks and in pretty serious rehab 3X a week for about a
year. Obviously the surgery ain't as invasive these days but the
important thing is to not rush it. I'd say I was playing touch
football after about 9 months and Ulti after a year ro so. Still
playing now 25 years later. I was marking Pat King when it happened
so maybe I deserved it, should have let someone else handle that.
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18302 is a reply to message #18259] Fri, 10 April 2009 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
keithastern
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Registered: January 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 9, 10:28 pm, Kevin Cole <KevinCC...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.

Best thing to do for a fast recovery is to try to build as much
strength in your leg before your surgery. As stated above, muscle
degenerates fast, so the more you have before the surgery the more
you'll be left with after. But check with your doctor first since
your injury could be more severe. Just do exercises that you can
control the weight with (no squats or dead lifts - use machines)
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18337 is a reply to message #18302] Fri, 10 April 2009 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BFG
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Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 10, 10:35 am, keithast...@gmail.com wrote:
> Best thing to do for a fast recovery is to try to build as much
> strength in your leg before your surgery.  As stated above, muscle
> degenerates fast, so the more you have before the surgery the more
> you'll be left with after.  But check with your doctor first since
> your injury could be more severe.  Just do exercises that you can
> control the weight with (no squats or dead lifts - use machines)

You realize that using machines like leg extensions usually increase
the shear stresses inside the knee? The thought of doing something
like leg extensions on a knee held together by just the MCL is
horrifying to me. A squat imitator like the leg press might not be as
bad, but make no mistake - we were made to move loads while standing
on our feet. Artificial movements may look safer, but they frequently
stress the knee in ways it's not designed to compensate for - only use
machines that a qualified therapist says are safe for your specific
knee injuries.

Squats, deadlifts, and lunges are essential to building real leg
strength. If you can't control the weight A) learn proper form B)
leave your ego behind and reduce the weight. Deadlifts and lunges will
work the hamstrings as well, although you may need to add some knee
flexion work to keep them balanced (glute ham raise is in general the
best option, although I'm not sure in the case of torn up knees).
Learning to front squat (bodybuilding style front squat is a little
easier to pick up) will force you to use good form, so do it. Work on
your range of motion. Some light elastic knee sleeves might be good
for any leg work.
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18343 is a reply to message #18337] Fri, 10 April 2009 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pgw
Messages: 133
Registered: November 2008
Senior Member
On Apr 10, 12:42 pm, BFG <shade3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You realize that using machines like leg extensions usually increase
> the shear stresses inside the knee? The thought of doing something
> like leg extensions on a knee held together by just the MCL is
> horrifying to me. A squat imitator like the leg press might not be as
> bad, but make no mistake - we were made to move loads while standing
> on our feet.

I will readily admit I don't really know whereof I speak, but weren't
we actually made to move loads while standing on feet connected, via
healthy ankles and tibias, to knees with four intact ligaments? Maybe
pre-surgery lifting will turn out to be a good idea for this guy, but
he might want to run it by his orthopedic surgeon.
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #18364 is a reply to message #18259] Fri, 10 April 2009 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
agerics20
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Registered: October 2008
Senior Member
> I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--i suffered the same injury in the 2001 'game to go' to club
nationals against DC while playing for the Warriors...
and i only subbed out one point.
and haven't missed a game since.

walk like nothing's wrong...and play thru it.
Re: Torn ACL, PCL, LCL [message #141507 is a reply to message #18364] Sun, 25 October 2015 04:42 Go to previous message
linkin.amit
Messages: 2
Registered: October 2015
Junior Member
On Saturday, April 11, 2009 at 7:23:15 AM UTC+5:30, ager...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I tore every major ligament in my knee except my MCL playing ultimate
> > last weekend. I completely expect to not play any ultimate this
> > summer, but I'm wondering if anyone out there had a similar knee
> > mishap and could give me some insight on recovery time.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> --i suffered the same injury in the 2001 'game to go' to club
> nationals against DC while playing for the Warriors...
> and i only subbed out one point.
> and haven't missed a game since.
>
> walk like nothing's wrong...and play thru it.


Hi This is Amit from India. I was involved in a bad accident with in a bike about four month ago.My MRI results say that I have PCL Tear in left knee.With the help of

rehabilitation exercises now I can walk slowly without knee instability.But I still get pain when the knee is under stress, ie, walking up and down stairs, walking

down hill. Not much confidence in knee.
Although I have met some of the patient with ACL injury. they said like after the operation , they are perfectly fine. Unfortunately I could not met any PCL injured

person. Or may be that is a rare injury....

I have consulted many doctors . Some doc says it will be ok by the time , but some says this-PCL is very important to operate.So I am confused what to do ..? Also I

have read that PCL Treatment is controversial as there are many methods,each with their own benefits.



I am wondering if anyone of you can suggest how and what treatment is best for PCL ligament. Any Related information will be really helpful.

Needed your prompt Reply.

-Amit
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