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Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74372] Tue, 27 July 2010 11:11 Go to next message
T H
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Just got this text from my a friend, "Sportscenter is about to show an ultimate highlight from worlds turn on ESPN" sent @ 1:57pm EST.

I'm @ work. was it any good?
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74376 is a reply to message #74372] Tue, 27 July 2010 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Reid K
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It was Fleming's catch. It was pretty sweet, wasn't like they did on
other occasions where they sped through it to get to another Top Play,
they showed it as a solo highlight itself. I had the sound off for
most of it because I wasn't playing attention to the TV so I don't
know what they said.

It's morning Sportscenter though, so I'd say there is a good chance
they show it again at the end of this episode that is currently on if
you missed it the first time.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74380 is a reply to message #74376] Tue, 27 July 2010 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rbrazile
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They were zoomed in a little to make up for the poor quality of the footage which meant that you couldn't quite see him leave the ground. They also didn't say Seattle or Sockeye, despite an obvious chance to hype American athletes, but still pretty cool.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74382 is a reply to message #74376] Tue, 27 July 2010 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T
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On Jul 27, 2:22 pm, Reid K <reid.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was Fleming's catch.  It was pretty sweet, wasn't like they did on
> other occasions where they sped through it to get to another Top Play,
> they showed it as a solo highlight itself.  I had the sound off for
> most of it because I wasn't playing attention to the TV so I don't
> know what they said.
>
> It's morning Sportscenter though, so I'd say there is a good chance
> they show it again at the end of this episode that is currently on if
> you missed it the first time.

At 2:40, the phrase "The Ultimate Catch" is on their sidebar that
indicates what's coming up.

T
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74384 is a reply to message #74382] Tue, 27 July 2010 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5414012&categoryid=2378 529
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74385 is a reply to message #74382] Tue, 27 July 2010 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sweet it was on but the quality was so bad it didn't do it justice. Did someone send in the footage, I thought Rob filmed it in HD. Should USA Ultimate should regulate this?
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74387 is a reply to message #74385] Tue, 27 July 2010 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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daze wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 15:08
Sweet it was on but the quality was so bad it didn't do it justice. Did someone send in the footage, I thought Rob filmed it in HD. Should USA Ultimate should regulate this?


the ultivillage website is posted on the footage. top leftish in a black box, barely readable: ultivillage.com
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74390 is a reply to message #74387] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heltzooor
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Let's talk about why this clip made it to Sportscenter:

*Jerseys w/numbers
*lined field.
*great play
*in a stadium... with fans sitting in stands (looks packed) in the
shot of the play (beginning of the clip with the empty stands is
quickly forgotten).

The only difference between the Zip catch and this one is that last
bullet... In the Zip clip you had fans lining the fields and did not
look like a sporting event that Sportscenter is familiar with... this
one in contrast did. Something to think about for showcase events.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74391 is a reply to message #74390] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob
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I got an email this morning asking for permission to use this clip (which I gave them) but I also offered to send them a higher resolution version which they never asked for.

Not sure why USUA would regulate the use of footage shot at a non USUA event. Besides, this is the type of exposure we've been waiting for. If I'd known ESPN was gonna pick it up I would've put a higher resolution version up. Live an learn.

Rob
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74393 is a reply to message #74390] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerrod
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On Jul 27, 3:08 pm, heltzooor <helt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's talk about why this clip made it to Sportscenter:
>
> *Jerseys w/numbers
> *lined field.
> *great play
> *in a stadium... with fans sitting in stands (looks packed) in the
> shot of the play (beginning of the clip with the empty stands is
> quickly forgotten).
>
> The only difference between the Zip catch and this one is that last
> bullet... In the Zip clip you had fans lining the fields and did not
> look like a sporting event that Sportscenter is familiar with... this
> one in contrast did. Something to think about for showcase events.

The video just got a lot of love on SportsNation. 70% of the people
polled were impressed by the catch. Pretty significant amount.

I've been watching for 30 minutes and they've already shown it in two
separate segments. Once under the headline of "Greatest Catch Ever?"
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74395 is a reply to message #74385] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 27, 3:09 pm, daze <ausn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sweet it was on but the quality was so bad it didn't do it
> justice.  Did someone send in the footage, I thought Rob
> filmed it in HD.  Should USA Ultimate should regulate this?
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com

probably dosent help that he's white and bald too. i mean, wouldnt
most people just think that any ole brothah would have simply run it
down.....not that it still wasnt a pretty amazing catch.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74396 is a reply to message #74390] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Jul 27, 4:08 pm, heltzooor <helt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's talk about why this clip made it to Sportscenter:
>
> *Jerseys w/numbers
> *lined field.
> *great play
> *in a stadium... with fans sitting in stands (looks packed) in the
> shot of the play (beginning of the clip with the empty stands is
> quickly forgotten).
>
> The only difference between the Zip catch and this one is that last
> bullet... In the Zip clip you had fans lining the fields and did not
> look like a sporting event that Sportscenter is familiar with... this
> one in contrast did. Something to think about for showcase events.

a reff standing there signaling a goal wouldnt have hurt either
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74397 is a reply to message #74395] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
agerics20
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, wouldnt
> most people just think that any ole brothah would have simply run it
> down
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


---wouldn't have taken a 'brothah'.........
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74398 is a reply to message #74396] Tue, 27 July 2010 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
agerics20
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> a reff standing there signaling a goal wouldnt have hurt either
~~~~~~~~~~~~

---that play could have required the "up" signal, followed by the two
handed down point to show "catch in the endzone", some good eyecontact
with a partner, followed by the "score" two hands straight up, palms
facing one another, fingers together.....

sweet catch.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74399 is a reply to message #74398] Tue, 27 July 2010 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob
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Or... he could just stand up, know he was in, spike the disc and pose for the cameras. I think it worked just fine the way it was.

Rob
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74401 is a reply to message #74397] Tue, 27 July 2010 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Jul 27, 4:53 pm, Reggie Fanelli <ageric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> , wouldnt> most people just think that any ole brothah would have simply run it
> > down
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ---wouldn't have taken a 'brothah'.........

well, they are much faster than your average white weekend warrior
athlete.........much MUCH faster
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74402 is a reply to message #74398] Tue, 27 July 2010 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Jul 27, 4:55 pm, Reggie Fanelli <ageric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > a reff standing there signaling a goal wouldnt have hurt either
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ---that play could have required the "up" signal, followed by the two
> handed down point to show "catch in the endzone", some good eyecontact
> with a partner, followed by the "score" two hands straight up, palms
> facing one another, fingers together.....


thats too much information......just give us the instant GOAL signal
so we can celebrate with the play. you know how american sports fans
crave instant gratification. and, i mean, making that catch is
absolutely no different from a football player making a sweet
touchdown catch, and those refs dont go thru that whole
process......they just give us the touchdown signal right then and
there......then wave it off if there was a call. just a basic way of
making the call more of a part of the play imo. i know, as a football
fan, i would HATE if they used that process in football.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74404 is a reply to message #74393] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noah
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On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, Jerrod <jwolf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 3:08 pm, heltzooor <helt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's talk about why this clip made it toSportscenter:
>
> > *Jerseys w/numbers
> > *lined field.
> > *great play
> > *in a stadium... with fans sitting in stands (looks packed) in the
> > shot of the play (beginning of the clip with the empty stands is
> > quickly forgotten).
>
> > The only difference between the Zip catch and this one is that last
> > bullet... In the Zip clip you had fans lining the fields and did not
> > look like a sporting event thatSportscenteris familiar with... this
> > one in contrast did. Something to think about for showcase events.
>
> The video just got a lot of love on SportsNation.  70% of the people
> polled were impressed by the catch.  Pretty significant amount.
>
> I've been watching for 30 minutes and they've already shown it in two
> separate segments.  Once under the headline of "Greatest Catch Ever?"

I'ma just throw this out there . . . I don't think it was *that* great
of a catch. Props to Andrew Fleming it was an awesome catch (heh
although it would have been a much easier catch if the throw had been
better), but I see a half dozen plays equally awesome every
tournament, even tournaments that aren't top-level. We play an
exciting, highlight-filled sport, guys. Quite frankly, I watch
Sportcenter ever night and half of the Top 10 I think "man, I see
something cooler than that during most scrimmages"

So again, why this play? I see two things:

First of all, the camera angle was perfect. Way to go, Rob. A great
shot makes all the difference (I think my favorite example of that is
the Vigi catch from Dream Cup, would have been only a so-so clip but
the perfect angle makes it awesome:
http://www.ultivillage.com/index.php/COTD-2008/Dream-Cup-08- Vigi-Layout-in-past-Chase)

Secondly, as heltzooor brought up, is the presentation. The fields
are lined, the teams look sharp in their uniforms, and, echoing
helzoor, the stadium makes it look like a legit sporting event

So what do we learn from this? Well, ultivillage is going to be out
there every big game, and it's seemed to me that the coverage (high
quality, multiple cameras, good angles) gets better every tournament.
If we organize more games in real venues, I guarantee we're going to
get more fantastic clips like this no problem. Then, all we have to
do is send them out to our friends (fb, twitter, whatever) . . .
there's no need for this to be an isolated event
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74405 is a reply to message #74393] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noah
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On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, Jerrod <jwolf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 3:08 pm, heltzooor <helt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's talk about why this clip made it toSportscenter:
>
> > *Jerseys w/numbers
> > *lined field.
> > *great play
> > *in a stadium... with fans sitting in stands (looks packed) in the
> > shot of the play (beginning of the clip with the empty stands is
> > quickly forgotten).
>
> > The only difference between the Zip catch and this one is that last
> > bullet... In the Zip clip you had fans lining the fields and did not
> > look like a sporting event thatSportscenteris familiar with... this
> > one in contrast did. Something to think about for showcase events.
>
> The video just got a lot of love on SportsNation.  70% of the people
> polled were impressed by the catch.  Pretty significant amount.
>
> I've been watching for 30 minutes and they've already shown it in two
> separate segments.  Once under the headline of "Greatest Catch Ever?"

I'ma just throw this out there . . . I don't think it was *that* great
of a catch. Props to Andrew Fleming it was an awesome catch (heh
although it would have been a much easier catch if the throw had been
better), but I see a half dozen plays equally awesome every
tournament, even tournaments that aren't top-level. We play an
exciting, highlight-filled sport, guys. Quite frankly, I watch
Sportcenter ever night and half of the Top 10 I think "man, I see
something cooler than that during most scrimmages"

So again, why this play? I see two things:

First of all, the camera angle was perfect. Way to go, Rob. A great
shot makes all the difference (I think my favorite example of that is
the Vigi catch from Dream Cup, would have been only a so-so clip but
the perfect angle makes it awesome:
http://www.ultivillage.com/index.php/COTD-2008/Dream-Cup-08- Vigi-Layout-in-past-Chase)

Secondly, as heltzooor brought up, is the presentation. The fields
are lined, the teams look sharp in their uniforms, and, echoing
helzoor, the stadium makes it look like a legit sporting event

So what do we learn from this? Well, ultivillage is going to be out
there every big game, and it's seemed to me that the coverage (high
quality, multiple cameras, good angles) gets better every tournament.
If we organize more games in real venues, I guarantee we're going to
get more fantastic clips like this no problem. Then, all we have to
do is send them out to our friends (fb, twitter, whatever) . . .
there's no need for this to be an isolated event
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74406 is a reply to message #74393] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noah
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On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, Jerrod <jwolf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 3:08 pm, heltzooor <helt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's talk about why this clip made it toSportscenter:
>
> > *Jerseys w/numbers
> > *lined field.
> > *great play
> > *in a stadium... with fans sitting in stands (looks packed) in the
> > shot of the play (beginning of the clip with the empty stands is
> > quickly forgotten).
>
> > The only difference between the Zip catch and this one is that last
> > bullet... In the Zip clip you had fans lining the fields and did not
> > look like a sporting event thatSportscenteris familiar with... this
> > one in contrast did. Something to think about for showcase events.
>
> The video just got a lot of love on SportsNation.  70% of the people
> polled were impressed by the catch.  Pretty significant amount.
>
> I've been watching for 30 minutes and they've already shown it in two
> separate segments.  Once under the headline of "Greatest Catch Ever?"

I'ma just throw this out there . . . I don't think it was *that* great
of a catch. Props to Andrew Fleming it was an awesome catch (heh
although it would have been a much easier catch if the throw had been
better), but I see a half dozen plays equally awesome every
tournament, even tournaments that aren't top-level. We play an
exciting, highlight-filled sport, guys. Quite frankly, I watch
Sportcenter ever night and half of the Top 10 I think "man, I see
something cooler than that during most scrimmages"

So again, why this play? I see two things:

First of all, the camera angle was perfect. Way to go, Rob. A great
shot makes all the difference (I think my favorite example of that is
the Vigi catch from Dream Cup, would have been only a so-so clip but
the perfect angle makes it awesome:
http://www.ultivillage.com/index.php/COTD-2008/Dream-Cup-08- Vigi-Layout-in-past-Chase)

Secondly, as heltzooor brought up, is the presentation. The fields
are lined, the teams look sharp in their uniforms, and, echoing
helzoor, the stadium makes it look like a legit sporting event

So what do we learn from this? Well, ultivillage is going to be out
there every big game, and it's seemed to me that the coverage (high
quality, multiple cameras, good angles) gets better every tournament.
If we organize more games in real venues, I guarantee we're going to
get more fantastic clips like this no problem. Then, all we have to
do is send them out to our friends (fb, twitter, whatever) . . .
there's no need for this to be an isolated event
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74409 is a reply to message #74406] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob
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Noah, thanks for the props. It definitely feels good to finally get one of my clips on ESPN. But, just like there are probably a dozen hole in one's being made across the globe everyday, when it happens on film, at a big tourney, while in the hunt, it's a big deal. The situation does matter.

This was an exceptional play in, in an exceptional situation, in an exceptional setting. Period. That's why the crowd went wild, and that's why it's on ESPN. Props to Andrew (one of the nicest guys in Ultimate) who has paid his dues on the D line and now gets to use his speed for fun things like this.

I will be submitting a proper highlight reel to ESPN (featuring the best of my 5+ years of filming) just in case they feel that Ultimate deserves another 15 minutes.

Rob
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74410 is a reply to message #74406] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timothyegilligan
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Noah wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 18:01
On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, Jerrod <jwolf...@gmail.com[/email]> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 3:08 pm, heltzooor <helt...@gmail.com[/email]>

I'ma just throw this out there . . . I don't think it was *that* great
of a catch. Props to Andrew Fleming it was an awesome catch (heh
although it would have been a much easier catch if the throw had been
better), but I see a half dozen plays equally awesome every
tournament, even tournaments that aren't top-level. We play an
exciting, highlight-filled sport, guys. Quite frankly, I watch
Sportcenter ever night and half of the Top 10 I think "man, I see
something cooler than that during most scrimmages"




So it wasn't "that" great of a catch, but it was awesome?

I think this catch was far from an ordinary lay out. I'll bet 98% of you if in the same situation would lay out too late and the disc would hit the ground before your hand even has a chance at grabbing it. This guy had to lay out early and caught the disc on his way down. Then he grabbed it within 6" of the ground. Best catch ever? I dunno, but it's up there. He had to cover a lot of ground on a sub par throw that was low and fast. It was a great catch
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74411 is a reply to message #74410] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tonyleonardo
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i've watched a lot of live ultimate over 20 years, by job or by choice and that was definitely one of the best layouts i've seen (zip's was nice too, and there are plenty of others... usually ones involving laying out for hammers)

the circumstances helped and the stadium seating meant we had a cool up-high angle. the tape proves that Rob's ground level was equally wicked.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74412 is a reply to message #74409] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heltzooor
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On Jul 27, 6:25 pm, Rob <r...@ultivillage.com> wrote:
> Noah, thanks for the props. It definitely feels good to
> finally get one of my clips on ESPN. But, just like there
> are probably a dozen hole in one's being made across the
> globe everyday, when it happens on film, at a big tourney,
> while in the hunt, it's a big deal. The situation does
> matter.
>
Rob, be sure to include the Arizona v. Los Positas bid from 2007...
that one is just nuts and the best IMHO.

> This was an exceptional play in, in an exceptional
> situation, in an exceptional setting. Period. That's why the
> crowd went wild, and that's why it's on ESPN. Props to
> Andrew (one of the nicest guys in Ultimate) who has paid his
> dues on the D line and now gets to use his speed for fun
> things like this.
>
> I will be submitting a proper highlight reel to ESPN
> (featuring the best of my 5+ years of filming) just in case
> they feel that Ultimate deserves another 15 minutes.
>
> Rob
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74413 is a reply to message #74410] Tue, 27 July 2010 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Noah
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On Jul 27, 3:25 pm, Gill <timothyegilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Noah wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 18:01
>
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, Jerrod <jwolf...@gmail.com[/email]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Jul 27, 3:08 pm, heltzooor
> > > <helt...@gmail.com[/email]>
>
> > I'ma just throw this out there . . . I don't think it
> > was *that* great
> > of a catch.  Props to Andrew Fleming it was an awesome
> > catch (heh
> > although it would have been a much easier catch if the
> > throw had been
> > better), but I see a half dozen plays equally awesome
> > every
> > tournament, even tournaments that aren't top-level.  We
> > play an
> > exciting, highlight-filled sport, guys.  Quite frankly,
> > I watch
> > Sportcenter ever night and half of the Top 10 I think
> > "man, I see
> > something cooler than that during most scrimmages"
>
> So it wasn't "that" great of a catch, but it was awesome?
>
> I think this catch was far from an ordinary lay out. I'll
> bet 98% of you if in the same situation would lay out too
> late and the disc would hit the ground before your hand even
> has a chance at grabbing it. This guy had to lay out early
> and caught the disc on his way down. Then he grabbed it
> within 6" of the ground. Best catch ever? I dunno, but it's
> up there. He had to cover a lot of ground on a sub par throw
> that was low and fast. It was a great catch
>
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com

Haha no doubt--if I made that identical cut and got that identical
throw 100 times, I'd miss it every single time. No question

All I'm saying is that, while the play was awesome, it's not
uncommon. It was just a few months ago that Rob started reposting
some old CotD highlights, and every single one of them was
outstanding. I believe that if we had every major tournament take
place in a legitimate sports venue with top-quality videotaping, we'd
have a SC-worthy clip every few weeks (also, as Rob pointed out, it
did help that they got to say "this clip is from the World
Championships" . . . but they didn't even know that it was a very
important point in the quarters, or any of the narrative behind
Sockeye's attempt to regain their past glory, etc. etc.--in many ways,
the clip does speak for itself)
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74414 is a reply to message #74399] Tue, 27 July 2010 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Douglas T Lilley
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On Jul 27, 5:05 pm, Rob <r...@ultivillage.com> wrote:
> Or... he could just stand up, know he was in, spike the disc
> and pose for the cameras. I think it worked just fine the
> way it was.

Or not spike the disc and not pose for the cameras, but it did work
just fine the way it was.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74417 is a reply to message #74414] Tue, 27 July 2010 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Jul 27, 7:01 pm, "3Jane." <q3j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 5:05 pm, Rob <r...@ultivillage.com> wrote:.

>
> > Or... he could just stand up, know he was in, spike the disc
> > and pose for the cameras. I think it worked just fine the
> > way it was.
>
> Or not spike the disc and not pose for the cameras, but it did work
> just fine the way it was.

yea, i'm sure most espn sports fans just assumed that there was a ref
somewhere out of the camera shot that was instantly signaling that
goal......just likle its done in football. thing is, as good as a
catch as it was it could have just as easily been a trap in which
there could have been a major ult-debate......without the proper 3rd
party officiation present that is. wonder what sports nation would
have thought about that catch(and the sport) if it were a little less
"conclusive" and there were no officials there to make an impartial
judgement.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74422 is a reply to message #74417] Tue, 27 July 2010 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob
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Or Toad, a ref could have incorrectly called it down, and pissed off an entire crowd and changed the outcome of the game. Just sayin...

Rob
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74431 is a reply to message #74422] Tue, 27 July 2010 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Jul 27, 8:55 pm, Rob <r...@ultivillage.com> wrote:

> Or Toad, a ref could have incorrectly called it down, and
> pissed off an entire crowd and changed the outcome of the
> game.

yet their rage would turn to praise once they saw the replay and that
the disc was indeed dropped.
----------------------------------------------------


Just sayin...

even if it was called wrongly by the ref it would pale in comparison
to the kind of ult-debat that can often erupt at that stage of the
game in observerless sotg comp. need i remind you of the infamous
alex call when boston won worlds year back.

so ya die with waht ya live with.........just sayin

refs blowing calls at crucial parts of games in sports is unfortunate
but tollerable and accepted.......5 minute discussion/arguments
between opposing player refs ARENT......and its truely sad that you
dont "get" that.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74435 is a reply to message #74431] Tue, 27 July 2010 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob
Messages: 977
Registered: October 2008
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Interesting that after years of wanting to get Ultimate on ESPN, your upset that when it happens it's not under your terms. This was an extremely important, competitive and spirited game of ultimate. One of the best I've ever seen. I know the fans enjoyed it and it made ESPN. Case closed.

I also can't understand you obsession with Mike G. You know he advocates for observers right, not refs? It's right there in the name of his organization.

Either way, you have enough threads on the go, please leave this one alone.

Rob
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74436 is a reply to message #74435] Tue, 27 July 2010 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
california_encounter
Messages: 93
Registered: February 2010
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FYI: its also on the front page of espn.com, about halfway down the page. kinda cool.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74458 is a reply to message #74436] Wed, 28 July 2010 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thejackrabbit
Messages: 1
Registered: July 2010
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Yeah it is - and everybody who likes ultimate should go there and
comment on the viedo requesting more coverage for the sport.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5414012&status=ok
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74461 is a reply to message #74435] Wed, 28 July 2010 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
Messages: 8204
Registered: April 2009
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On Jul 28, 12:50 am, Rob <r...@ultivillage.com> wrote:

> Interesting that after years of wanting to get Ultimate on
> ESPN, your upset that when it happens it's not under your
> terms.

i'm not upset.......just trying to bring you guys back down to earth
as to the reality of ultimate stratus and perception. i mean, look at
what hector said about why the clip even aired. so it seem there are
just a few elements missing that could get ultimate out of the random
sc clip stage. one would be refs.....the other, a little more color
(and thus speed). so why not focus on adding those missing elements
rather than basking in the fluff that ultimate currently is.

just dont pat yourself on the back for too long, lest ultimate get
surpased by yet another girls sport.
----------------------------------------------------------



This was an extremely important, competitive and
> spirited game of ultimate


nobody that watches espn regularly give a shit if the game was
spirited. and once you guys get over trying to flourish that aspect
you will be doing the sport a great service.
------------------------------------------------------------ ---


.. One of the best I've ever seen. I
> know the fans enjoyed it and it made ESPN. Case closed.

if thats all there is to this "case" then ultimate will continue to be
the red headed step child of sports
--------------------------------------------------
>
> I also can't understand you obsession with Mike G.

whats not to understand, he's the man. he's taking ultimte to the
promise land single handedly but i can see how all the old
traditionalist jews couldnt see what john the babtists obsession with
jesus was.........yet 2000 years later zillions of christians do.

i mean, who else is doing anythig as close to as innovative and
progressive with this sport as mike?

so i got to praise him like i should.

also, according to some sz'z out there anything i support will
automatically fail because i am that much of an obnoxious subversive.
thats according to the likes of blw and 3jane etal
anyways............so if the UOA succeds with me as its biggest
advocate i can confidently say that that all bullshit
-------------------------------------------------



You know
> he advocates for observers right, not refs?

you know that his observers are more ref than observer, right? IVE
SEEN EM IN ACTION, have you? and i try not to get caught up in all
the samantics.
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------




It's right there
> in the name of his organization.

reguardless of the name......theyre still more ref than
observer.........AND THE KICKER IS, that according to usau policy,
usau percieves them as refs too. you know, because they actively make
calls that are subjective......isnt that how usau distinguishes refs
from observers?
---------------------------------------------------
>
> Either way, you have enough threads on the go, please leave
> this one alone.

thats like telling me to piss all over it. havent you people figured
out how i operate here. and saying please dont help a bit.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74464 is a reply to message #74461] Wed, 28 July 2010 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
finkelst
Messages: 47
Registered: February 2009
Member
Rob, don't get sucked into this guys garbage, bro...just leave him alone.
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74466 is a reply to message #74464] Wed, 28 July 2010 07:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lance Marput
Messages: 844
Registered: June 2010
Location: Columbia Missouri
Senior Member
yep....ultivillage rob knows better than to waste too much time on
todd toad leber's rsd tantrums.

Rob, congrats again on the ESPN nod and clip. The guys in the mail
room mentioned it to me a few minutes ago and essentially made me
watch it with them 3 or 4 times ( Lifelong basketball and baseball
fans.).

The one guy's son (hs age) has played baseball all his life but this
summer seems to be enjoying throwing the disc in the evenings with his
Pops instead of lobbing the archaic Rawlings product back and forth.
Go figure.


Later,
Peter Mc

MDSC
Univ. of Mo.
23 Ellis Library
Columbia, Mo.
65201

"Archiving disc sports since 1997."
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74468 is a reply to message #74372] Wed, 28 July 2010 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doctor
Messages: 247
Registered: April 2010
Location: H-town
Senior Member
My favorite part about this clip is the fact that so many people have made the comment, "I could of made that catch."

Well, my question is, Could you of made the team?

Nope. You're not on Sockeye and you're probably not on a team that went to worlds either.

How can you say you could of made a catch if you couldn't even make the team?

My second favorite part about this clip is that it's giving Ultimate players a reason to get on an Ultimate fourm to discuss why the sport is now somehow more legitament because ESPN is covering it. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Oh and Toad, I think the words you were looking for is a "black guy". I hope that black people don't sit around calling us "dudes" because they are afraid that calling us "white guys" is offensive. Racism is dead.

- Doc
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74473 is a reply to message #74458] Wed, 28 July 2010 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T H
Messages: 1095
Registered: July 2009
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Senior Member
thejackrabbit wrote on Wed, 28 July 2010 09:12
Yeah it is - and everybody who likes ultimate should go there and
comment on the viedo requesting more coverage for the sport.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5414012&status=ok



it's still on the homepage...and what would be almost just as valuable is directing people to espn.com and telling them to click on the video themselves...if you've ever listened to ESPN Radio you know that ESPN monitors which links are the most active.

Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74475 is a reply to message #74372] Wed, 28 July 2010 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T
Messages: 110
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
ESPN's First Take just debated how great of a catch it was. Hilarious
to hear Skip Bayless attempt describing how a frisbee has air
underneath it that keeps it up longer than a baseball or football.
The other commentators were talking about it earning an ESPY.

T
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74476 is a reply to message #74475] Wed, 28 July 2010 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ultimatephotography
Messages: 420
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
ESPN Top Ten Today

at.....

1

woot woot
Re: Worlds on sportscenter? [message #74477 is a reply to message #74476] Wed, 28 July 2010 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
keithastern
Messages: 25
Registered: January 2009
Junior Member
On Jul 28, 12:07 pm, bil <ultimatephotogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ESPN Top Ten Today
>
> at.....
>
> 1
>
> woot woot


Maybe espn will be encouraged to cover more ultimate now. Add it to
the college season coverage of soccer, lax, field hockey, etc. Or
maybe it will encourage CBS College sports to cover more and in a
timely fashion.


But could somebody get Crazy Frank off the ESPN comments board?
(probably not, but it would be nice...)
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