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An Ultimate First? [message #43390] Thu, 29 October 2009 08:48 Go to next message
Bountiful Garden Foun
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If Revolver wins it all, will this be the first time that one
metropolitan area had back to back nationals winners (while the other
team more or less stayed intact)?
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43398 is a reply to message #43390] Thu, 29 October 2009 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
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Registered: October 2008
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On Oct 29, 11:48 am, Frank <fhuguen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If Revolver wins it all, will this be the first time that one
> metropolitan area had back to back nationals winners (while the other
> team more or less stayed intact)?

Maybe but is that really an interesting stat? That's like a baseball
stat where some guy is the 3rd player to record 100+ RBI's and 10
stolen bases in 3 straight seasons since 1993. Sure I guess it's a
record but who cares?
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43399 is a reply to message #43398] Thu, 29 October 2009 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ben sprung
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Registered: October 2008
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On Oct 29, 12:35 pm, Jared Smith <sirjaredsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 11:48 am, Frank <fhuguen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If Revolver wins it all, will this be the first time that one
> > metropolitan area had back to back nationals winners (while the other
> > team more or less stayed intact)?
>
> Maybe but is that really an interesting stat? That's like a baseball
> stat where some guy is the 3rd player to record 100+ RBI's and 10
> stolen bases in 3 straight seasons since 1993. Sure I guess it's a
> record but who cares?

Different teams from the same city to winning in consecutive years
while the teams remained the same seems pretty noteworthy to me.
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43400 is a reply to message #43398] Thu, 29 October 2009 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
H
Messages: 249
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Oct 29, 10:35 am, Jared Smith <sirjaredsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 11:48 am, Frank <fhuguen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If Revolver wins it all, will this be the first time that one
> > metropolitan area had back to back nationals winners (while the other
> > team more or less stayed intact)?
>
> Maybe but is that really an interesting stat? That's like a baseball
> stat where some guy is the 3rd player to record 100+ RBI's and 10
> stolen bases in 3 straight seasons since 1993. Sure I guess it's a
> record but who cares?

It is interesting, in that it's a testament to the quality of the
ultimate coming out of a city that two different teams can take home
the championship in back-to-back years. Imagine if Voodoo won natties
right after Sockeye, or Bodhi/Ironside right after Ironside/Bodhi.
That'd be huge. If Revolver wins, it's the same situation.

h
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43405 is a reply to message #43400] Thu, 29 October 2009 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
Messages: 129
Registered: October 2008
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On Oct 29, 12:45 pm, H <ahalv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 10:35 am, Jared Smith <sirjaredsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 29, 11:48 am, Frank <fhuguen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > If Revolver wins it all, will this be the first time that one
> > > metropolitan area had back to back nationals winners (while the other
> > > team more or less stayed intact)?
>
> > Maybe but is that really an interesting stat? That's like a baseball
> > stat where some guy is the 3rd player to record 100+ RBI's and 10
> > stolen bases in 3 straight seasons since 1993. Sure I guess it's a
> > record but who cares?
>
> It is interesting, in that it's a testament to the quality of the
> ultimate coming out of a city that two different teams can take home
> the championship in back-to-back years.  Imagine if Voodoo won natties
> right after Sockeye, or Bodhi/Ironside right after Ironside/Bodhi.
> That'd be huge.  If Revolver wins, it's the same situation.
>
> h

I guess so, but I was also under the impression that there was a lot
of change within the teams. Didn't Revolver pick up a bunch of ballers
in Beau, Mac, etc? Sure it's impressive for a metro area to support
that much quality ultimate, but it's not a huge surprise when you have
a team that finished 5th, give them a few of the best players from the
team that finished 3rd, and see them do well.
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43407 is a reply to message #43405] Thu, 29 October 2009 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bountiful Garden Foun
Messages: 528
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
On Oct 29, 10:05 am, Jared Smith <sirjaredsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 12:45 pm, H <ahalv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 10:35 am, Jared Smith <sirjaredsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 29, 11:48 am, Frank <fhuguen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > If Revolver wins it all, will this be the first time that one
> > > > metropolitan area had back to back nationals winners (while the other
> > > > team more or less stayed intact)?
>
> > > Maybe but is that really an interesting stat? That's like a baseball
> > > stat where some guy is the 3rd player to record 100+ RBI's and 10
> > > stolen bases in 3 straight seasons since 1993. Sure I guess it's a
> > > record but who cares?
>
> > It is interesting, in that it's a testament to the quality of the
> > ultimate coming out of a city that two different teams can take home
> > the championship in back-to-back years.  Imagine if Voodoo won natties
> > right after Sockeye, or Bodhi/Ironside right after Ironside/Bodhi.
> > That'd be huge.  If Revolver wins, it's the same situation.
>
> > h
>
> I guess so, but I was also under the impression that there was a lot
> of change within the teams. Didn't Revolver pick up a bunch of ballers
> in Beau, Mac, etc? Sure it's impressive for a metro area to support
> that much quality ultimate, but it's not a huge surprise when you have
> a team that finished 5th, give them a few of the best players from the
> team that finished 3rd, and see them do well.

A 'bunch'? Two guys move to the bay area and you call that a bunch?

And besides, your point about 5th is even interesting in that you have
two teams from a metropolitan area finishing in the top five last
year. The bay area has loads of talent enough to form two contenders.
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43474 is a reply to message #43407] Thu, 29 October 2009 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MrPinto
Messages: 601
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Oct 29, 10:20 am, Frank <fhuguen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A 'bunch'?  Two guys move to the bay area and you call that a bunch?
>
> And besides, your point about 5th is even interesting in that you have
> two teams from a metropolitan area finishing in the top five last
> year.  The bay area has loads of talent enough to form two contenders.

I don't think that the Bay Area requires any defense, but Revolver
picked up at least 5 players who went to nationals for another team
last year, and they weren't scrubs either. Beau should need no
introduction, but if you're unfamiliar, word has it that he jumped
over a dude once and also won a gold medal in like Asia or something.
Mac Taylor was in the running for a Callahan, Whit Clark was captain
of the Condors, and so on.

Moot point though. This is kind of a premature coronation, seeing as
how there are three days of ultimate left to be played.

~p
Re: An Ultimate First? [message #43486 is a reply to message #43474] Fri, 30 October 2009 05:32 Go to previous message
ulticritic
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Senior Member
On Oct 29, 10:54 pm, "MrPi...@gmail.com" <mrpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think that the Bay Area requires any defense, but Revolver
> picked up at least 5 players who went to nationals for another team
> last year, and they weren't scrubs either.  Beau should need no
> introduction, but if you're unfamiliar, word has it that he jumped
> over a dude once and also won a gold medal in like Asia or something.
> Mac Taylor was in the running for a Callahan, Whit Clark was captain
> of the Condors, and so on.

thats three.......who are the others? we ALL know how punto tends to
exagerate
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