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Re: South Open Regionals [message #38491 is a reply to message #38468] Thu, 24 September 2009 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jack Dupell
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UpRoar beat both Suess and Cottonmouth at Heat out. I don't remember
the scores. Our only loss was to Doublewide in the Semis (Damn you
Trick and your scoober dumps).

Grit...are those the boys from UNT? KRich, DRich, doc and the gang?
Looking forward to playing you guys again.

Jack Dupell
UpRoar
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38492 is a reply to message #38491] Thu, 24 September 2009 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jack Dupell
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Also, if we are taking last year's results into account...We beat
Ronin at Hypothermia.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38493 is a reply to message #38492] Thu, 24 September 2009 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith.Larsen.TX
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On Sep 24, 3:48 pm, Jack Dupell <Ja...@theshoppingcentergroup.com>
wrote:
> Also, if we are taking last year's results into account...We beat
> Ronin at Hypothermia.

Did you not play Tanasi? I copied the pools from the Heatout website,
it looks like they might have been changed on the fly at the
tournament and I never fixed them [since I wasn't there]. I was hoping
to use this common opponent. To me it's a toss up between Uproar and
Grit for 6th...

Considering Grit has been seeded '06: 5th, '07: 8th, '08: 8th and
finished 5th,7th,5th respectively I think they deserve a little more
respect on seeding this year.

Thanks for clearing that up Rip, didn't realize that Forfeit was
allowed, I saw that in a 2nd/3rd game in another sectionals and was a
little confused.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38494 is a reply to message #38493] Thu, 24 September 2009 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CBrowning
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Games at Heatout were changed on the fly. A team dropped at the last
minute and pools were completely redone. Tanasi and UpRoar did not
play.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38497 is a reply to message #38494] Thu, 24 September 2009 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Burk
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You can see Grit's 09 roster on our new website at
http://www.dallasunited.org/grit/gritroster (note, a couple of guys
have dropped off the roster since the time this was put together).
Keith, thanks for providing Grit's past results in your post. I
failed to include that in my prior post regarding grit's seeding.

Also, i didn't mean to imply that Duel was attending or invited to
attend regionals in my initial post. As far as I know they have not
been approached by the ROC. Someone with more information than me
would have to confirm or disconfirm their status. I only brought them
up as my question regarding the apparent missing team per the initial
post to this topic.

I can confirm that Crude is taking Riverside's spot.

Justin Burk
Grit #11
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38572 is a reply to message #38497] Fri, 25 September 2009 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HGLloyd
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Re: South Open Regionals [message #38656 is a reply to message #38454] Fri, 25 September 2009 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
joe.m.segal
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On Sep 24, 12:40 pm, Keith Larsen <keith.larsen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 14. Vicious (Who are these guys? Doesn't seem like the historical
> Vicious team...)

Yeah, some years they're good, some years they're not as good. It's a
vicious cycle.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38662 is a reply to message #38656] Fri, 25 September 2009 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mimmo
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On Sep 25, 7:51 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 12:40 pm, Keith Larsen <keith.larsen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 14. Vicious (Who are these guys? Doesn't seem like the historical
> > Vicious team...)
>
> Yeah, some years they're good, some years they're not as good.  It's a
> vicious cycle.

You know...I wouldn't expect a whole lot from FTS at regionals...they
only beat an 8 man Florida team 13-7. A team comprised of 4 players
that had never played organized ultimate before (EVER)... 2 others
have played for only one year ... the remaining 2 made the Florida A-
team the previous week after not being on it before (all the others
went to watch the UF vs UT game)...at one point it was tied and an FTS
captain was heard yelling "We've worked too hard to lose to a bunch of
dickwads in the finals"

Vicious has historically been comprised of the top players from UF
that join up with the older more experienced former UF players, and
baller gainesvillians. The younger guys are doing their own thing,
and a lot of the older guys are getting old and soft (and really
weren't that good anyways (Palmer)) and gaining sympathy baby weight
(congrats everyone btw). So Vicious is now composed of a middle group
of Gainesvillians and former UF players, too old for college (mostly)
and too young to be old and bad (mostly (Jia)).

I don't know why Joe, but I don't like you, and you get my blood
boiling...
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38664 is a reply to message #38662] Fri, 25 September 2009 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
joe.m.segal
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On Sep 25, 11:45 pm, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 25, 7:51 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 24, 12:40 pm, Keith Larsen <keith.larsen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > 14. Vicious (Who are these guys? Doesn't seem like the historical
> > > Vicious team...)
>
> > Yeah, some years they're good, some years they're not as good.  It's a
> > vicious cycle.
>
> You know...I wouldn't expect a whole lot from FTS at regionals...they
> only beat an 8 man Florida team 13-7.  A team comprised of 4 players
> that had never played organized ultimate before (EVER)... 2 others
> have played for only one year ... the remaining 2 made the Florida A-
> team the previous week after not being on it before (all the others
> went to watch the UF vs UT game)...at one point it was tied and an FTS
> captain was heard yelling "We've worked too hard to lose to a bunch of
> dickwads in the finals"
>
> Vicious has historically been comprised of the top players from UF
> that join up with the older more experienced former UF players, and
> baller gainesvillians.  The younger guys are doing their own thing,
> and a lot of the older guys are getting old and soft (and really
> weren't that good anyways (Palmer)) and gaining sympathy baby weight
> (congrats everyone btw).  So Vicious is now composed of a middle group
> of Gainesvillians and former UF players, too old for college (mostly)
> and too young to be old and bad (mostly (Jia)).
>
> I don't know why Joe, but I don't like you, and you get my blood
> boiling...

Mimmo, why do you have to be such a tool all the time?

and it was 13-6
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38667 is a reply to message #38664] Fri, 25 September 2009 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brodie
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On Sep 25, 11:59 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 25, 11:45 pm, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 25, 7:51 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 24, 12:40 pm, Keith Larsen <keith.larsen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > 14. Vicious (Who are these guys? Doesn't seem like the historical
> > > > Vicious team...)
>
> > > Yeah, some years they're good, some years they're not as good.  It's a
> > > vicious cycle.
>
> > You know...I wouldn't expect a whole lot from FTS at regionals...they
> > only beat an 8 man Florida team 13-7.  A team comprised of 4 players
> > that had never played organized ultimate before (EVER)... 2 others
> > have played for only one year ... the remaining 2 made the Florida A-
> > team the previous week after not being on it before (all the others
> > went to watch the UF vs UT game)...at one point it was tied and an FTS
> > captain was heard yelling "We've worked too hard to lose to a bunch of
> > dickwads in the finals"
>
> > Vicious has historically been comprised of the top players from UF
> > that join up with the older more experienced former UF players, and
> > baller gainesvillians.  The younger guys are doing their own thing,
> > and a lot of the older guys are getting old and soft (and really
> > weren't that good anyways (Palmer)) and gaining sympathy baby weight
> > (congrats everyone btw).  So Vicious is now composed of a middle group
> > of Gainesvillians and former UF players, too old for college (mostly)
> > and too young to be old and bad (mostly (Jia)).
>
> > I don't know why Joe, but I don't like you, and you get my blood
> > boiling...
>
> Mimmo, why do you have to be such a tool all the time?
>
> and it was 13-6

damn our noobs are good
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38679 is a reply to message #38664] Sat, 26 September 2009 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mimmo
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On Sep 25, 8:59 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mimmo, why do you have to be such a tool all the time?

A tool? What kind of tool am I joe? And who exactly is wielding me?

I just don't like shit or bad jokes being aimed at my
friends...they're much too cool and thoughtful to have to deal with
that.

> and it was 13-6

Oh, my bad then...you crushed them.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38698 is a reply to message #38679] Sat, 26 September 2009 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andrewroca
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Location: Central Florida
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On Sep 26, 4:56 am, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 25, 8:59 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mimmo, why do you have to be such a tool all the time?
>
> A tool?  What kind of tool am I joe?  And who exactly is wielding me?
>
> I just don't like shit or bad jokes being aimed at my
> friends...they're much too cool and thoughtful to have to deal with
> that.
>
> > and it was 13-6
>
> Oh, my bad then...you crushed them.

let the scores speak louder than your text... you weren't there Mimmo.
FTS is 2-0 against VC. we MIGHT have saw a different score and a
different game if your fellow gainesvillians showed up... but they
didnt. "If the queen had balls, she'd be king." The team isn't called
Brodie and Friends, its Florida. A win is a win and if you are really
that sour about it, then tell them next time to show up and play.

Nut Up or Shut Up please.


-Rawwwwwr
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38701 is a reply to message #38698] Sat, 26 September 2009 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T H
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Does it really matter?
no one is beating chain/double this year.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38718 is a reply to message #38701] Sat, 26 September 2009 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
H
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On Sep 26, 9:22 am, Torre <torre.harg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does it really matter?
> no one is beating chain/double this year.

bump
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38727 is a reply to message #38718] Sat, 26 September 2009 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TwentySix
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Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
I play on Cartel (FL) and we just got a bid. Anyone want to try new
seedings for the middle teams? Did Duel take their bid?

-CC
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38733 is a reply to message #38698] Sat, 26 September 2009 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Douglas T Lilley
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On Sep 26, 10:46 am, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 4:56 am, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 25, 8:59 pm, Joe Segal <joe.m.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Mimmo, why do you have to be such a tool all the time?
>
> > A tool?  What kind of tool am I joe?  And who exactly is wielding me?
>
> > I just don't like shit or bad jokes being aimed at my
> > friends...they're much too cool and thoughtful to have to deal with
> > that.
>
> > > and it was 13-6
>
> > Oh, my bad then...you crushed them.
>
> let the scores speak louder than your text... you weren't there Mimmo.
> FTS is 2-0 against VC. we MIGHT have saw a different score and a
> different game if your fellow gainesvillians showed up... but they
> didnt. "If the queen had balls, she'd be king." The team isn't called
> Brodie and Friends, its Florida. A win is a win and if you are really
> that sour about it, then tell them next time to show up and play.


I don't know anything about FL sectional Ultimate rivalries but I
appreciate your returning rsd to its original and proper purpose,
talking shit about other teams, very well done. Good luck to
everybody this weekend.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38734 is a reply to message #38698] Sat, 26 September 2009 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mimmo
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On Sep 26, 7:46 am, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> let the scores speak louder than your text... you weren't there Mimmo.
> FTS is 2-0 against VC. we MIGHT have saw a different score and a
> different game if your fellow gainesvillians showed up... but they
> didnt. "If the queen had balls, she'd be king." The team isn't called
> Brodie and Friends, its Florida. A win is a win and if you are really
> that sour about it, then tell them next time to show up and play.
>
> Nut Up or Shut Up please.

Roca, you ignorant slut.

You have convoluted two of my points into one...Vicious and Florida
are different teams are they not? At no point did I say "FTS wouldn't
have beaten vicious if..." Yeah I just re-read it...doesn't say
anything like that. I actually didn't say Florida would have won
either...hmm...

A dude had asked what the deal was with vicious, and all the
explaining about vicious was answering that question plus me making
fun of Palmer. But good reading comprehension on your part.

Sour about it? I'm not...I'm quite the opposite. I think it's
hilarious that it was that close between you guys and a bunch of
rookies. I'm glad it wasn't closer to tell you the truth, or else you
probably would have probably tried to top yourself for worst contest
call I have seen in my 7 years of playing Ultimate. No joking on that
one.

Nut up or shut up?

Not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean...so either I'm
supposed to come across the country and play against you guys with a
torn ACL, or I'm supposed to shut up? I don't see either of those
things happening.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38735 is a reply to message #38698] Sat, 26 September 2009 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mimmo
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Registered: September 2008
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On Sep 26, 7:46 am, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> let the scores speak louder than your text... you weren't there Mimmo.
> FTS is 2-0 against VC. we MIGHT have saw a different score and a
> different game if your fellow gainesvillians showed up... but they
> didnt. "If the queen had balls, she'd be king." The team isn't called
> Brodie and Friends, its Florida. A win is a win and if you are really
> that sour about it, then tell them next time to show up and play.
>
> Nut Up or Shut Up please.

Roca, you ignorant slut.

You have convoluted two of my points into one...Vicious and Florida
are different teams are they not? At no point did I say "FTS wouldn't
have beaten vicious if..." Yeah I just re-read it...doesn't say
anything like that. I actually didn't say Florida would have won
either...hmm...

A dude had asked what the deal was with vicious, and all the
explaining about vicious was answering that question plus me making
fun of Palmer. But good reading comprehension on your part.

Sour about it? I'm not...I'm quite the opposite. I think it's
hilarious that it was that close between you guys and a bunch of
rookies. I'm glad it wasn't closer to tell you the truth, or else you
probably would have tried to top yourself for worst contest
call I have seen in my 7 years of playing Ultimate. No joking on that
one.

Nut up or shut up?

Not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean...so either I'm
supposed to come across the country and play against you guys with a
torn ACL, or I'm supposed to shut up? I don't see either of those
things happening.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38738 is a reply to message #38735] Sat, 26 September 2009 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andrewroca
Messages: 68
Registered: September 2008
Location: Central Florida
Member
On Sep 26, 5:27 pm, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 7:46 am, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > let the scores speak louder than your text... you weren't there Mimmo.
> > FTS is 2-0 against VC. we MIGHT have saw a different score and a
> > different game if your fellow gainesvillians showed up... but they
> > didnt. "If the queen had balls, she'd be king." The team isn't called
> > Brodie and Friends, its Florida. A win is a win and if you are really
> > that sour about it, then tell them next time to show up and play.
>
> > Nut Up or Shut Up please.
>
> Roca, you ignorant slut.
>
> You have convoluted two of my points into one...Vicious and Florida
> are different teams are they not?  At no point did I say "FTS wouldn't
> have beaten vicious if..." Yeah I just re-read it...doesn't say
> anything like that.  I actually didn't say Florida would have won
> either...hmm...
>
> A dude had asked what the deal was with vicious, and all the
> explaining about vicious was answering that question plus me making
> fun of Palmer.  But good reading comprehension on your part.
>
> Sour about it?  I'm not...I'm quite the opposite.  I think it's
> hilarious that it was that close between you guys and a bunch of
> rookies.  I'm glad it wasn't closer to tell you the truth, or else you
> probably would have tried to top yourself for worst contest
> call I have seen in my 7 years of playing Ultimate.  No joking on that
> one.
>
> Nut up or shut up?
>
> Not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean...so either I'm
> supposed to come across the country and play against you guys with a
> torn ACL, or I'm supposed to shut up?  I don't see either of those
> things happening.

Mimmo, you pretentious slag...

1. I was stating a fact that FTS has beaten VC twice. <-- notice the
period seperating my thoughts.<---- oh look there's another one!
2. Uncatchable. And if that's the worst contest call you've seen in 7
years then you need to branch out and play new people. Or just look
harder within Gainesville.
3. You've reverted to just talking shit about teams now, how bout u
talk about something else? Like maybe how we're "gross", but
Gainesville is coming down with swine flu...
4. Your "experience" means nothing to me or anybody else.

I have nothing against VC, just Mimmo.


-Rawwwwwr
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38741 is a reply to message #38738] Sat, 26 September 2009 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mimmo
Messages: 587
Registered: September 2008
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On Sep 26, 3:34 pm, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mimmo, you pretentious slag...

You know the word pretentious? Impressive roca, +1 to you!

> 1. I was stating a fact that FTS has beaten VC twice. <-- notice the
> period seperating my thoughts.<---- oh look there's another one!

Congrats, what does that (you beating VC) have to do with anything?!


> 2. Uncatchable. And if that's the worst contest call you've seen in 7
> years then you need to branch out and play new people. Or just look
> harder within Gainesville.

I'll try man...I've played ultimate in all 4 US time zones (alaska and
hawaii EXCLUDED!)...and both of the time zones in Europe, I'll branch
out i swear...

> 3. You've reverted to just talking shit about teams now, how bout u
> talk about something else? Like maybe how we're "gross", but
> Gainesville is coming down with swine flu...

You're right. However, at that point I was jokingly referring to
your history of banging fat chicks, also another orlando player's
hooking up with girls who ask him to pee in their mouth, and another
former orlando player's habit of eating cereal while pooping. You're
not gross though...

> 4. Your "experience" means nothing to me or anybody else

It means nothing to me either.

> I have nothing against VC, just Mimmo.

I have everything against VC and Roca (pretty much only for that call)
and Joe Segal too!

That's it for me on this thread.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38742 is a reply to message #38738] Sat, 26 September 2009 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Random Guy
Messages: 67
Registered: February 2009
Member
On Sep 26, 6:34 pm, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 5:27 pm, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 26, 7:46 am, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > let the scores speak louder than your text... you weren't there Mimmo.
> > > FTS is 2-0 against VC. we MIGHT have saw a different score and a
> > > different game if your fellow gainesvillians showed up... but they
> > > didnt. "If the queen had balls, she'd be king." The team isn't called
> > > Brodie and Friends, its Florida. A win is a win and if you are really
> > > that sour about it, then tell them next time to show up and play.
>
> > > Nut Up or Shut Up please.
>
> > Roca, you ignorant slut.
>
> > You have convoluted two of my points into one...Vicious and Florida
> > are different teams are they not? At no point did I say "FTS wouldn't
> > have beaten vicious if..." Yeah I just re-read it...doesn't say
> > anything like that. I actually didn't say Florida would have won
> > either...hmm...
>
> > A dude had asked what the deal was with vicious, and all the
> > explaining about vicious was answering that question plus me making
> > fun of Palmer. But good reading comprehension on your part.
>
> > Sour about it? I'm not...I'm quite the opposite. I think it's
> > hilarious that it was that close between you guys and a bunch of
> > rookies. I'm glad it wasn't closer to tell you the truth, or else you
> > probably would have tried to top yourself for worst contest
> > call I have seen in my 7 years of playing Ultimate. No joking on that
> > one.
>
> > Nut up or shut up?
>
> > Not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean...so either I'm
> > supposed to come across the country and play against you guys with a
> > torn ACL, or I'm supposed to shut up? I don't see either of those
> > things happening.
>
> Mimmo, you pretentious slag...
>
> 1. I was stating a fact that FTS has beaten VC twice. <-- notice the
> period seperating my thoughts.<---- oh look there's another one!
> 2. Uncatchable. And if that's the worst contest call you've seen in 7
> years then you need to branch out and play new people. Or just look
> harder within Gainesville.
> 3. You've reverted to just talking shit about teams now, how bout u
> talk about something else? Like maybe how we're "gross", but
> Gainesville is coming down with swine flu...
> 4. Your "experience" means nothing to me or anybody else.
>
> I have nothing against VC, just Mimmo.

I have seen some shyte calls from our dear friend Roca here... UCF
right? if so, def seen some horrible calls, some funny, some
tragic... some both, some, well just not quite sure how I felt about
them
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38803 is a reply to message #38741] Sun, 27 September 2009 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andrewroca
Messages: 68
Registered: September 2008
Location: Central Florida
Member
On Sep 26, 7:38 pm, Mimmo <michaelalfan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 3:34 pm, Roca Dope <andrewr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Mimmo, you pretentious slag...
>
> You know the word pretentious? Impressive roca, +1 to you!
>
> > 1. I was stating a fact that FTS has beaten VC twice. <-- notice the
> > period seperating my thoughts.<---- oh look there's another one!
>
> Congrats, what does that (you beating VC) have to do with anything?!
>
> > 2. Uncatchable. And if that's the worst contest call you've seen in 7
> > years then you need to branch out and play new people. Or just look
> > harder within Gainesville.
>
> I'll try man...I've played ultimate in all 4 US time zones (alaska and
> hawaii EXCLUDED!)...and both of the time zones in Europe, I'll branch
> out i swear...
>
> > 3. You've reverted to just talking shit about teams now, how bout u
> > talk about something else? Like maybe how we're "gross", but
> > Gainesville is coming down with swine flu...
>
> You're right.  However, at that point  I was jokingly referring to
> your history of banging fat chicks, also another orlando player's
> hooking up with girls who ask him to pee in their mouth, and another
> former orlando player's habit of eating cereal while pooping.  You're
> not gross though...
>
> > 4. Your "experience" means nothing to me or anybody else
>
> It means nothing to me either.
>
> > I have nothing against VC, just Mimmo.
>
> I have everything against VC and Roca (pretty much only for that call)
> and Joe Segal too!
>
> That's it for me on this thread.

agree to disagree.


-Rawwwwwr
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38809 is a reply to message #38701] Sun, 27 September 2009 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scpoulos
Messages: 225
Registered: September 2008
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On Sep 26, 11:22 am, Torre <torre.harg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does it really matter?
> no one is beating chain/double this year.

yeah that probably is a good call. shame that ronin didn't happen
again this year. Go Uproar!!
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38810 is a reply to message #38809] Sun, 27 September 2009 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith Parish
Messages: 1
Registered: September 2009
Junior Member
Cartel, fifth in the Florida section got the last bid. Not sure the
UPA reasoning, but apparently the rule is their section gets the extra
bid. no more debate about what seed Duel should/could have been
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38811 is a reply to message #38810] Sun, 27 September 2009 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dusty Baker
Messages: 1
Registered: September 2009
Junior Member
That's too bad cause Duel would easily finish in the top half of the
region when all is said and done. Is this due to the lack of teams at
sectionals?

Keith Parish wrote:
> Cartel, fifth in the Florida section got the last bid. Not sure the
> UPA reasoning, but apparently the rule is their section gets the extra
> bid. no more debate about what seed Duel should/could have been
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38822 is a reply to message #38718] Sun, 27 September 2009 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Grant
Messages: 166
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Sep 26, 1:01 pm, H <ahalv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 9:22 am, Torre <torre.harg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does it really matter?
> > no one is beating chain/double this year.
>
> bump

Come on Adam. At least have a little confidence that the coaching you
gave me will do some good against Chain/Doublewide

Grant
Tanasi #30
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38853 is a reply to message #38822] Mon, 28 September 2009 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brian sherry
Messages: 163
Registered: March 2009
Senior Member
On Sep 27, 8:48 pm, Grant <gdfarring...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 1:01 pm, H <ahalv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 9:22 am, Torre <torre.harg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Does it really matter?
> > > no one is beating chain/double this year.
>
> > bump
>
> Come on Adam.  At least have a little confidence that the coaching you
> gave me will do some good against Chain/Doublewide
>
> Grant
> Tanasi #30




if tanasi had re-formed last year, they'd be going to nationals
claiming the #3 spot over diablo. they are a year late; how long till
south gets a third bid again.... seems like that would be the only
way a team beside doublewide and chain would get in in the next five-
ten years.

didn't diablo beat a team easily for the number 3 spot last year?
what are the biggest margins of victory in the game to go at
regionals? ie, the disparity between the 3 team and 4th place
team....

any similar situation deveoling this year because of bid allocation
(though, i guess we have to wait for allocation to talk about that).
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38856 is a reply to message #38810] Mon, 28 September 2009 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DSG
Messages: 4
Registered: June 2009
Junior Member
On Sep 27, 5:05 pm, Keith Parish <kpar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cartel, fifth in the Florida section got the last bid.  Not sure the
> UPA reasoning, but apparently the rule is their section gets the extra
> bid.  no more debate about what seed Duel should/could have been

UPA messed up. Our bid was pulled this morning. I think it is now
being offered to the East Coast section. Needless to say we have a lot
of disappointed/angry guys who are scrambling to cancel their flights.
Luckily it looks like Delta lets you cancel for no charge w/in 24
hours.

Good luck to Duel or whatever East Coast team gets the unused bid.

Dan
Cartel
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38868 is a reply to message #38856] Mon, 28 September 2009 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CBrowning
Messages: 190
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
That really sucks that they screwed that up. Major bummer for the
Cartel guys, as I know they were pumped to play in regionals. I am
not sure how you screw that up, as it is laid out pretty clearly on
the UPA website.

http://www.upa.org/club/2009_club/series_guidelines#reg

Per the website, you take the total teams in a section, divide it by
total teams in the region, and multiply it by 16. The integer of that
calculation is how many bids a section gets.

TX: 16/46 * 16 = 5.66 (5 bids)
FL: 11/46 * 16 = 3.83 (3 bids)
EC:10/46 * 16 = 3.48 (3 bids)
GC: 9/46 * 16 = 3.13 (3 bids)

That allocates 14 of the total bids. The last two go to the sections
with the largest remaining decimals (teams closest to achieving full
bids) which were Florida (.83) and Texas (.66). Florida already gave
that bid to Vicious. The Texas bid would go to Riverside, and if they
didn't want it it should be passed down until a team in the Texas
section did want it. If no Texas team wants it, the bid goes to the
section with the next highest decimal which is the EC section (.48).
The bid should not have gone back to FL unless none of the teams in
the EC or GC sections wanted it.

Once you start doing the math, it is pretty straight forward. It
takes all of 5 minutes to figure it out, and I am not sure how a
mistake like that can be made.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38969 is a reply to message #38853] Mon, 28 September 2009 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rdelcasino
Messages: 65
Registered: October 2008
Member
On Sep 28, 9:58 am, eegan shelter <radio_thiev...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 8:48 pm, Grant <gdfarring...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 26, 1:01 pm, H <ahalv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 26, 9:22 am, Torre <torre.harg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Does it really matter?
> > > > no one is beating chain/double this year.
>
> > > bump
>
> > Come on Adam.  At least have a little confidence that the coaching you
> > gave me will do some good against Chain/Doublewide
>
> > Grant
> > Tanasi #30
>
> if tanasi had re-formed last year, they'd be going to nationals
> claiming the #3 spot over diablo.  they are a year late; how long till
> south gets a third bid again....  seems like that would be the only
> way a team beside doublewide and chain would get in in the next five-
> ten years.
>
> didn't diablo beat a team easily for the number 3 spot last year?
> what are the biggest margins of victory in the game to go at
> regionals?  ie, the disparity between the 3 team and 4th place
> team....
>
> any similar situation deveoling this year because of bid allocation
> (though, i guess we have to wait for allocation to talk about that).

Strength bids are given based on lowest finish of a team from a given
region, no? So assuming Chain and Doublewide do as well as they look
like they will this year a 3rd bid could be a possibility next year.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38996 is a reply to message #38969] Tue, 29 September 2009 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TwentySix
Messages: 5
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
Thanks for doing the math CB, you are right, under the rules it IS
pretty straightforward and the bid should never have been offered to
Cartel in the first place. That being said, it is even shittier to
offer the bid and retract it 5 days before Sectionals after half the
team had already started back up track workouts this weekend and
bought plane tickets.

On another point, I think the RULE is stupid and is not what is best
for the competitve climate of Regionals. Why should the bid go to the
next highest team in that section? That doesn't really make any sense
from a competitive standpoint. Why send an even worse team to
Regionals? The point is to give the 16 best teams in the Region a
shot to compete. Not necessarily for a shot at Nationals, but just
the opportunity to play against good teams.

I used to play for the Iron Men and we squeaked into Regionals as the
16 seed and the 4th place team out of Gulf Coast in 2006. We ended up
tied for 5th in the Region, losing to Bulge on Universe Point on
Sunday morning. However, if we had not accepted our bid, the 5th
place team from our Section was a Masters team who would have declined
the bid. Why should the bid have then gone to an even lower seeded
team out of our Section? It should have gone to an equally ranked
team from another Section in my opinion who would have had a chance to
COMPETE.

Cartel is a better team than they performed this year, losing twice at
Sectionals to VC on universe point (maybe I'm bad luck?) and would
have finished probably somewhere in the middle of the Region when all
was said and done.

If the bid ends up going to Duel, good for them, they deserve it. If
the bid goes to another team in the EC just bc they were in the EC, I
think that is crap.

Any thoughts?

-CC
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38997 is a reply to message #38996] Tue, 29 September 2009 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aclement
Messages: 62
Registered: October 2008
Member
On Sep 29, 9:44 am, CC <ccasel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the bid ends up going to Duel, good for them, they deserve it.  If
> the bid goes to another team in the EC just bc they were in the EC, I
> think that is crap.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -CC

Follow precedent: 17 team regionals!
Re: South Open Regionals [message #38998 is a reply to message #38997] Tue, 29 September 2009 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tyler evans
Messages: 1
Registered: September 2009
Junior Member
On Sep 29, 9:54 am, Allen <aclem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 9:44 am, CC <ccasel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If the bid ends up going to Duel, good for them, they deserve it.  If
> > the bid goes to another team in the EC just bc they were in the EC, I
> > think that is crap.
>
> > Any thoughts?
>
> > -CC
>
> Follow precedent:  17 team regionals!

Duel has accepted the bid
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39003 is a reply to message #38853] Tue, 29 September 2009 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slade.ben
Messages: 72
Registered: May 2009
Member
> didn't diablo beat a team easily for the number 3 spot last year?
> what are the biggest margins of victory in the game to go at
> regionals?  ie, the disparity between the 3 team and 4th place
> team....

Diablo played Ludicrous Speed three times at regionals, beating them
15-11, 15-6, 15-8 respectively. With fewer players (and generally
longer games) Ludicrous fatigued noticeably across the weekend... the
game on Saturday stayed close until about 11-10, when Diablo finished
with several breaks.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39024 is a reply to message #38996] Tue, 29 September 2009 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
Messages: 129
Registered: October 2008
Senior Member
On Sep 29, 10:44 am, CC <ccasel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for doing the math CB, you are right, under the rules it IS
> pretty straightforward and the bid should never have been offered to
> Cartel in the first place.  That being said, it is even shittier to
> offer the bid and retract it 5 days before Sectionals after half the
> team had already started back up track workouts this weekend and
> bought plane tickets.
>
> On another point, I think the RULE is stupid and is not what is best
> for the competitve climate of Regionals.  Why should the bid go to the
> next highest team in that section?  That doesn't really make any sense
> from a competitive standpoint.  Why send an even worse team to
> Regionals?  The point is to give the 16 best teams in the Region a
> shot to compete.  Not necessarily for a shot at Nationals, but just
> the opportunity to play against good teams.
>
> I used to play for the Iron Men and we squeaked into Regionals as the
> 16 seed and the 4th place team out of Gulf Coast in 2006.  We ended up
> tied for 5th in the Region, losing to Bulge on Universe Point on
> Sunday morning.  However, if we had not accepted our bid, the 5th
> place team from our Section was a Masters team who would have declined
> the bid.  Why should the bid have then gone to an even lower seeded
> team out of our Section?  It should have gone to an equally ranked
> team from another Section in my opinion who would have had a chance to
> COMPETE.
>
> Cartel is a better team than they performed this year, losing twice at
> Sectionals to VC on universe point (maybe I'm bad luck?) and would
> have finished probably somewhere in the middle of the Region when all
> was said and done.
>
> If the bid ends up going to Duel, good for them, they deserve it.  If
> the bid goes to another team in the EC just bc they were in the EC, I
> think that is crap.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -CC

Even though that may seem equitable in your mind that's never the way
that bids are allocated, even in teams that straight up qualify.
Regionals is not the 16 best teams in the region plain and simple,
just like nationals isn't the 16 best teams in the nation. It is the
best teams representing a geographical area. Areas earn more chances
to represent their location by fielding more teams at sectionals. So
no, the bid shouldn't go to a team because they might be better and
play more competitively at regionals. It should go to the area that
earned the chance to represent their section by having more teams. You
can disagree with the overall system but your line of thinking is
simply not the way the series is structured.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39031 is a reply to message #39024] Tue, 29 September 2009 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Loomis
Messages: 15
Registered: September 2009
Location: Louisville, KY
Junior Member
On Sep 29, 12:05 pm, Jared Smith <sirjaredsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 10:44 am, CC <ccasel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for doing the math CB, you are right, under the rules it IS
> > pretty straightforward and the bid should never have been offered to
> > Cartel in the first place.  That being said, it is even shittier to
> > offer the bid and retract it 5 days before Sectionals after half the
> > team had already started back up track workouts this weekend and
> > bought plane tickets.
>
> > On another point, I think the RULE is stupid and is not what is best
> > for the competitve climate of Regionals.  Why should the bid go to the
> > next highest team in that section?  That doesn't really make any sense
> > from a competitive standpoint.  Why send an even worse team to
> > Regionals?  The point is to give the 16 best teams in the Region a
> > shot to compete.  Not necessarily for a shot at Nationals, but just
> > the opportunity to play against good teams.
>
> > I used to play for the Iron Men and we squeaked into Regionals as the
> > 16 seed and the 4th place team out of Gulf Coast in 2006.  We ended up
> > tied for 5th in the Region, losing to Bulge on Universe Point on
> > Sunday morning.  However, if we had not accepted our bid, the 5th
> > place team from our Section was a Masters team who would have declined
> > the bid.  Why should the bid have then gone to an even lower seeded
> > team out of our Section?  It should have gone to an equally ranked
> > team from another Section in my opinion who would have had a chance to
> > COMPETE.
>
> > Cartel is a better team than they performed this year, losing twice at
> > Sectionals to VC on universe point (maybe I'm bad luck?) and would
> > have finished probably somewhere in the middle of the Region when all
> > was said and done.
>
> > If the bid ends up going to Duel, good for them, they deserve it.  If
> > the bid goes to another team in the EC just bc they were in the EC, I
> > think that is crap.
>
> > Any thoughts?
>
> > -CC
>
> Even though that may seem equitable in your mind that's never the way
> that bids are allocated, even in teams that straight up qualify.
> Regionals is not the 16 best teams in the region plain and simple,
> just like nationals isn't the 16 best teams in the nation. It is the
> best teams representing a geographical area. Areas earn more chances
> to represent their location by fielding more teams at sectionals. So
> no, the bid shouldn't go to a team because they might be better and
> play more competitively at regionals. It should go to the area that
> earned the chance to represent their section by having more teams. You
> can disagree with the overall system but your line of thinking is
> simply not the way the series is structured.

Recall that in the NFL, the NFC team won the super bowl for 13 years
straight. At around year 7 of that streak, the mob started
complaining that we had to invite some crappy AFC team to the super
bowl, to get blown out by the team who had won the hard-fought NFC
championship. And then, whaddaya know, the AFC just started whooping
ass one day. And now nobody talks about restructuring, at least in
that particular way.

No matter what system you come up with, some years it will produce a
horrific injustice.


Steve Actual Loomis

Don't fake the funk
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39043 is a reply to message #38996] Tue, 29 September 2009 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brian sherry
Messages: 163
Registered: March 2009
Senior Member
On Sep 29, 10:44 am, CC <ccasel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>We ended up
> tied for 5th in the Region, losing to Bulge on Universe Point on
> Sunday morning.

> Cartel is a better team than they performed this year, losing twice at
> Sectionals to VC on universe point (maybe I'm bad luck?)
>
Any thoughts?
>
> -CC


do you mean to say that you lost all those games on double-game
point? universe point is a data center software company.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39044 is a reply to message #39003] Tue, 29 September 2009 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brian sherry
Messages: 163
Registered: March 2009
Senior Member
On Sep 29, 11:05 am, BSlade <slade....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > didn't diablo beat a team easily for the number 3 spot last year?
> > what are the biggest margins of victory in the game to go at
> > regionals?  ie, the disparity between the 3 team and 4th place
> > team....
>
> Diablo played Ludicrous Speed three times at regionals, beating them
> 15-11, 15-6, 15-8 respectively. With fewer players (and generally
> longer games) Ludicrous fatigued noticeably across the weekend... the
> game on Saturday stayed close until about 11-10, when Diablo finished
> with several breaks.



thanks---this helps the perspective.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39059 is a reply to message #38809] Tue, 29 September 2009 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leefus
Messages: 10
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Sep 27, 3:21 pm, scpoulos <scpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 11:22 am, Torre <torre.harg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does it really matter?
> > no one is beating chain/double this year.
>


This is very true. Chain and Doublewide are clearly the favorites, but
I think Tanasi could at least catch one of these teams sleeping and
make it a good game, possibly an upset. They've got an incredibly
athletic team w/ a very deep bench. I think there are about 2 guys on
the team below 6 feet.

Good luck to everyone.
Re: South Open Regionals [message #39159 is a reply to message #39059] Wed, 30 September 2009 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Mimmo
Messages: 587
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Sep 29, 2:40 pm, Leefus <leeber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is very true. Chain and Doublewide are clearly the favorites, but
> I think Tanasi could at least catch one of these teams sleeping and
> make it a good game, possibly an upset. They've got an incredibly
> athletic team w/ a very deep bench. I think there are about 2 guys on
> the team below 6 feet.
>
> Good luck to everyone.

I have nothing against Tanasi. They have a good team, and I find
their accents quite amusing. But I seriously think this year is the
year that one of the South teams breaks through and is in the
Finals...both teams (DW and Chain) have stellar rosters and are as
strong as I've ever seen them, my guess is they're going to be very
focused at Regionals.

I still would love to hear about Foulkes to Foulkes for a score
though...
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