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Eugene Summer Solstice - Results & Reaction [message #28833] Mon, 22 June 2009 08:32 Go to next message
luke
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Registered: October 2008
Location: Chicago
Senior Member
I was not there and am curious what the thoughts are of those who were
there. I heard that the semis were Rhino/Sockeye and Thompson/
Revolver. With Revolver winning the thing are they the obvious early
favorite this year out of the Northwest? Is it way too early to tell
who has the greater chemistry, recruits, offense, defense?

(just trying to keep RSD alive people)
Re: Eugene Summer Solstice - Results & Reaction [message #28836 is a reply to message #28833] Mon, 22 June 2009 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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Registered: April 2009
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On Jun 22, 11:32 am, luketimjohnson <luketimjohn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was not there and am curious what the thoughts are of those who were
> there.  I heard that the semis were Rhino/Sockeye and Thompson/
> Revolver.  With Revolver winning the thing are they the obvious early
> favorite this year out of the Northwest?  Is it way too early to tell
> who has the greater chemistry, recruits, offense, defense?
>
> (just trying to keep RSD alive people)

AND DONT FORGET THE RULE TWEEKS THEY ARE KNOWN FOR USING
Re: Eugene Summer Solstice - Results & Reaction [message #28840 is a reply to message #28836] Mon, 22 June 2009 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kevinpstout
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Registered: February 2009
Junior Member
The observers for the elite division were canceled, I'm not sure why
exactly, but I think it had to do with finding enough qualified
observers. So if Lou had planned to do active travel calls or other
cool stuff like the timed time outs, limited time between pulls, etc.
that had been done in the past it didn't happen this year.


AND DONT FORGET THE RULE TWEEKS THEY ARE KNOWN FOR USING
Re: Eugene Summer Solstice - Results & Reaction [message #28843 is a reply to message #28840] Mon, 22 June 2009 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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Registered: April 2009
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On Jun 22, 12:15 pm, Kevin <kevinpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The observers for the elite division were canceled, I'm not sure why
> exactly, but I think it had to do with finding enough qualified
> observers.  So if Lou had planned to do active travel calls or other
> cool stuff like the timed time outs, limited time between pulls, etc.
> that had been done in the past it didn't happen this year.
>
>  AND DONT FORGET THE RULE TWEEKS THEY ARE KNOWN FOR USING


so now the upa, in addition to being REactive, is REgressive
Re: Eugene Summer Solstice - Results & Reaction [message #28890 is a reply to message #28843] Mon, 22 June 2009 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aghesquiere
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Registered: October 2008
Member
The tournament has nothing to do with the UPA, the organization is
completely independent - Lou couldn't get observers and the tournament
had to be traditional as a result. Now enough of that, this thread is
not about the UPA.

In general I find that tournament results and write-ups are hard to
come by because the people best positioned to write them are on the
teams in the tournament and its suspect form to post much about
yourself. Its too bad though, because the ultimate community is
hungry for stories and we in general could do a much better job with
publicity and generating interest. On that note, here's what I saw
from the NW in the (EARLY) spring.

Furious looked like a team in the early stages of coming together,
which is very typical for them. They've got good pieces but were not
in sync and maybe not in good physical form yet. No Mike Grant, and
Andrew Lugsdin was hurt, but Oscar and the new core of players they
have are undoubtedly talented. Judging Furious in the spring is
notoriously difficult.

Rhino looked fast and had a very functional deep game on offense;
they've immediately stepped up from last year. Sockeye and Revolver
both traded with them until late and only pulled away at the end of
their games. Rhino could be set up well to challenge teams this year,
particularly in good throwing conditions when their deep ball is
effective.

Sockeye was unchallenged until Rhino, and generally looked good as you
would expect. Missing Chase for sure, and Nord was not there for
their offense, but they slotted BJ Sefton in as a cutter and he was
playing very well in their absence. Seth was not playing either and
is likely out for the club season altogether. Fitness is the least
likely thing to be a problem for Sockeye this year.

Revolver won the tournament and in pretty strong fashion. Mac and
Beau installed in any Offense is helpful, Revolver's was very
effective all weekend. A good spring season for Revolver for sure.

The Fall tournaments will be much more telling for relative strengths,
and will certainly be exciting. The NW will have strong contenders as
ever; personally I am looking forward to the many future match-ups
this season will bring.


On Jun 22, 9:23 am, ulticritic <ulticri...@live.com> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 12:15 pm, Kevin <kevinpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The observers for the elite division were canceled, I'm not sure why
> > exactly, but I think it had to do with finding enough qualified
> > observers.  So if Lou had planned to do active travel calls or other
> > cool stuff like the timed time outs, limited time between pulls, etc.
> > that had been done in the past it didn't happen this year.
>
> >  AND DONT FORGET THE RULE TWEEKS THEY ARE KNOWN FOR USING
>
> so now the upa, in addition to being REactive, is REgressive
Re: Eugene Summer Solstice - Results & Reaction [message #28941 is a reply to message #28890] Mon, 22 June 2009 18:19 Go to previous message
Nirvana
Messages: 53
Registered: October 2008
Member
On Jun 22, 12:36 pm, Dutchy <aghesqui...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The tournament has nothing to do with the UPA, the organization is
> completely independent - Lou couldn't get observers and the tournament
> had to be traditional as a result.  Now enough of that, this thread is
> not about the UPA.
>
> In general I find that tournament results and write-ups are hard to
> come by because the people best positioned to write them are on the
> teams in the tournament and its suspect form to post much about
> yourself.  Its too bad though, because the ultimate community is
> hungry for stories and we in general could do a much better job with
> publicity and generating interest.  On that note, here's what I saw
> from the NW in the (EARLY) spring.
>
> Furious looked like a team in the early stages of coming together,
> which is very typical for them.  They've got good pieces but were not
> in sync and maybe not in good physical form yet.  No Mike Grant, and
> Andrew Lugsdin was hurt, but Oscar and the new core of players they
> have are undoubtedly talented.  Judging Furious in the spring is
> notoriously difficult.
>
> Rhino looked fast and had a very functional deep game on offense;
> they've immediately stepped up from last year.  Sockeye and Revolver
> both traded with them until late and only pulled away at the end of
> their games.  Rhino could be set up well to challenge teams this year,
> particularly in good throwing conditions when their deep ball is
> effective.
>
> Sockeye was unchallenged until Rhino, and generally looked good as you
> would expect.  Missing Chase for sure, and Nord was not there for
> their offense, but they slotted BJ Sefton in as a cutter and he was
> playing very well in their absence.  Seth was not playing either and
> is likely out for the club season altogether.  Fitness is the least
> likely thing to be a problem for Sockeye this year.
>
> Revolver won the tournament and in pretty strong fashion.  Mac and
> Beau installed in any Offense is helpful, Revolver's was very
> effective all weekend.  A good spring season for Revolver for sure.
>
> The Fall tournaments will be much more telling for relative strengths,
> and will certainly be exciting.  The NW will have strong contenders as
> ever; personally I am looking forward to the many future match-ups
> this season will bring.
>
> On Jun 22, 9:23 am, ulticritic <ulticri...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 22, 12:15 pm, Kevin <kevinpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The observers for the elite division were canceled, I'm not sure why
> > > exactly, but I think it had to do with finding enough qualified
> > > observers.  So if Lou had planned to do active travel calls or other
> > > cool stuff like the timed time outs, limited time between pulls, etc.
> > > that had been done in the past it didn't happen this year.
>
> > >  AND DONT FORGET THE RULE TWEEKS THEY ARE KNOWN FOR USING
>
> > so now the upa, in addition to being REactive, is REgressive

Sockeye's final roster, from what I remember from this weekend:

Returning members

Jaime "Idaho" Arambula
Dave Bestock
Mike Caldwell
Nate Castine
Sam C-K
Jimmy Chu
Jeremy Cram
Andrew Fleming
Tim Gehret
Sam Harkness
Ray Illian
Aly Lenon
Alex Nord (for sectionals, regionals, and nationals only)
Matt Rehder
Moses Rifkin
Blaine Robbins
Thomas Sebby
Ryan Seguine
Matt "Skippy" Sewell
Ben Wiggins

Retired/Not Returning

Roger Crafts
Seth Crockford
Will Henry
Mike Jaeger
Ron Kubalanza
Chase S-B
Seth Wiggins (this one I'm not entirely sure about)
Ryan Winklemann

New Members

Spencer Wallis (played on Moho and Oregon Ego)
Danny Tritiak (returning from injury)
BJ Sefton (UW)
Tyler (Magnum)
Guy in blue hat I've never seen before

In sum, Sockeye looks excellent and should make nationals along with
Revolver. I cannot, however, pick them for the final four at natties.

Furious George looked terrible, but what do you expect when Oscar
Pottinger is the only star member of the team? Morgan Hibbert was
supposed to be the second-best player on the field for Furious, but he
looked god-awful. I didn't see Mauro, Kirk Savage, or Mike Grant, and
Andrew Lugsdin was on the sidelines, but I suppose they could all be
back for regionals. As it stands right now however, there is no way
this version of Furious is making nationals.

Revolver looked polished and extremely athletic. The one knock on them
always was that they didn't have any dominant big men to go with their
speed. Well, now they have the top three cutters from Johnny Bravo in
Beau, Martin, and Mac so I believe that addresses that issue.

My way-too-early prediction is Revolver vs. Chain in the finals.
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