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17-20 Seeds Justified? [message #25239] Sat, 23 May 2009 15:49 Go to next message
Keith.Larsen.TX
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Registered: September 2008
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18 of 20 teams won at least one game in pool play, 19th seed over the
6th seed and 20th seed over the 16th seed. I was curious if people
agreed that expanding the field was justified by the 17th-20th seeds
not going 0-4 across the board.

On another note, Michigan is the only hope of the Great Lakes getting
their first team to semis... ever... but they need to get through UCSB
and Colorado to do it...

Meanwhile, Texas looks to be the first South team in Semis since they
did it back in 1989...
Re: 17-20 Seeds Justified? [message #25240 is a reply to message #25239] Sat, 23 May 2009 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Daag Alemayehu
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Registered: September 2008
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On May 23, 6:49 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
> 18 of 20 teams won at least one game in pool play, 19th seed over the
> 6th seed and 20th seed over the 16th seed. I was curious if people
> agreed that expanding the field was justified by the 17th-20th seeds
> not going 0-4 across the board.

Well, that 19 seed (Williams) got its lone win over Berkeley. Their
only win was against Texas after Texas already clinched the pool and
had nothing to play for.

At the very least, it's good to see the bottom seeds in the pools not
get trampled. That seems to happen almost every year even with only
16 teams at nationals, so it's a pleasant surprise to not see that
happen with 20 teams. And if you look closely at the scores you'll
see that Minnesota was only 2 points away from making the championship
bracket instead of Michigan.

> Meanwhile, Texas looks to be the first South team in Semis since they
> did it back in 1989...

Easy, tiger. They still have to beat either UVA or Tufts. Not a lock
by any stretch of the imagination. Still, pretty impressive what
they've done so far.
Re: 17-20 Seeds Justified? [message #25370 is a reply to message #25239] Sun, 24 May 2009 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam Tarr
Messages: 214
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On May 23, 4:49 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
> 18 of 20 teams won at least one game in pool play, 19th seed over the
> 6th seed and 20th seed over the 16th seed. I was curious if people
> agreed that expanding the field was justified by the 17th-20th seeds
> not going 0-4 across the board.
>
> On another note, Michigan is the only hope of the Great Lakes getting
> their first team to semis... ever... but they need to get through UCSB
> and Colorado to do it...
>
> Meanwhile, Texas looks to be the first South team in Semis since they
> did it back in 1989...

UPenn women, as the 20th seed, get within a few points of making
semifinals.

24 teams people, seriously.
Re: 17-20 Seeds Justified? [message #25389 is a reply to message #25240] Sun, 24 May 2009 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael McNeil
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Registered: October 2008
Member
On May 23, 7:07 pm, Daag Alemayehu <daag.alemay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Easy, tiger.  They still have to beat either UVA or Tufts.  Not a lock
> by any stretch of the imagination.  Still, pretty impressive what
> they've done so far.

And they beat UVA by a pretty decent margin (five points) to reach the
semis. Congrats to Texas!
Re: 17-20 Seeds Justified? [message #25447 is a reply to message #25239] Mon, 25 May 2009 07:30 Go to previous message
Manzell
Messages: 145
Registered: October 2008
Senior Member
On May 23, 6:49 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
> 18 of 20 teams won at least one game in pool play, 19th seed over the
> 6th seed and 20th seed over the 16th seed. I was curious if people
> agreed that expanding the field was justified by the 17th-20th seeds
> not going 0-4 across the board.
>
> On another note, Michigan is the only hope of the Great Lakes getting
> their first team to semis... ever... but they need to get through UCSB
> and Colorado to do it...
>
> Meanwhile, Texas looks to be the first South team in Semis since they
> did it back in 1989...

I think that having two games a day rather than 3 nearly justifies the
20-team format. Also, it probably helps overall attendance to have
more teams involved.
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