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Nationals Talk [message #25077] Fri, 22 May 2009 07:39 Go to next message
Fuse
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Michigan came back on a 6-1 run to take it 16-14? Anyone there to tell
what happened?

Any other exiting games today?
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25079 is a reply to message #25077] Fri, 22 May 2009 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
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On May 22, 10:39 am, Fuse <joshuasmand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michigan came back on a 6-1 run to take it 16-14? Anyone there to tell
> what happened?
>
> Any other exiting games today?

Looks like Cornell silenced a little bit of all the AC hype thats been
going on around here! Probably earned some respect in the process too
from everyone who says the metro east is garbage
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25086 is a reply to message #25079] Fri, 22 May 2009 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bslade86
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On May 22, 10:46 am, Jared <emos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 10:39 am, Fuse <joshuasmand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Michigan came back on a 6-1 run to take it 16-14? Anyone there to tell
> > what happened?
>
> > Any other exiting games today?
>
> Looks like Cornell silenced a little bit of all the AC hype thats been
> going on around here! Probably earned some respect in the process too
> from everyone who says the metro east is garbage

Wow, Pitt is rolling Cal. Any details?
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25088 is a reply to message #25086] Fri, 22 May 2009 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dane
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I'm always curious about which teams may not have sent their whole
rosters. Are there any teams this year that might not have an
accurate representation because of teammates who couldn't make the
trip?
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25089 is a reply to message #25088] Fri, 22 May 2009 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Twofingeredbandit
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On May 22, 12:07 pm, Dane <obrien.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm always curious about which teams may not have sent their whole
> rosters.  Are there any teams this year that might not have an
> accurate representation because of teammates who couldn't make the
> trip?

This is Nationals. Any player not there wouldn't impact their team's
success anyway.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25090 is a reply to message #25079] Fri, 22 May 2009 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wabartenstein
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> Looks like Cornell silenced a little bit of all the AC hype thats been
> going on around here! Probably earned some respect in the process too
> from everyone who says the metro east is garbage

nope. still garbage. still great at calling "ticky tack" fouls though.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25091 is a reply to message #25090] Fri, 22 May 2009 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wiggity
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Nice to see that someone hacked the Score Reporter. Congrats Colorado!
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25109 is a reply to message #25091] Fri, 22 May 2009 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AnthonyRBowers
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Congratulations AC region for recording your first win! Toughest
region in the country!
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25112 is a reply to message #25109] Fri, 22 May 2009 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
triactry03
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On May 22, 3:02 pm, anthonyrbow...@gmail.com wrote:
> Congratulations AC region for recording your first win! Toughest
> region in the country!

And yet UVA only beat the four seed from central by one point? Hmm.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25114 is a reply to message #25112] Fri, 22 May 2009 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adam Tarr
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On May 22, 1:07 pm, "triactr...@gmail.com" <triactr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 22, 3:02 pm, anthonyrbow...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Congratulations AC region for recording your first win! Toughest
> > region in the country!
>
> And yet UVA only beat the four seed from central by one point? Hmm.

Minnesota now with two losses by four points total. Looks like they
came to play, even if they end day 1 with little to show for it.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25122 is a reply to message #25114] Fri, 22 May 2009 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith.Larsen.TX
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Just watched clip1 on the upa site.

Bad overruling on the foul call by the observer at 15-14 in the
Minnesota game, if you image sequence that Michigan's Derrick Wolbert
(maybe?) went through Minnesota's Austin Juds arm while laying out
into his hip. That is a lot of contact during cap to overrule a foul
call...
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25126 is a reply to message #25122] Fri, 22 May 2009 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peterson
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On May 22, 3:59 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just watched clip1 on the upa site.
>
> Bad overruling on the foul call by the observer at 15-14 in the
> Minnesota game, if you image sequence that Michigan's Derrick Wolbert
> (maybe?) went through Minnesota's Austin Juds arm while laying out
> into his hip. That is a lot of contact during cap to overrule a foul
> call...

Looked like a pretty good D to me. Not that much contact from what I
could see on that video. Looks like the defender and the receiver
were putting their arms in the same space at the same time. I was
more curious, but couldn't tell, if the Michigan player who
immediately hucked it actually travelled. Too tough to tell from the
small video and since he had no marker and the observer couldn't call
it we will never know.

Peterson
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25129 is a reply to message #25126] Fri, 22 May 2009 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt
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On May 22, 3:25 pm, Peterson <pevesteter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 3:59 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Just watched clip1 on the upa site.
>
> > Bad overruling on the foul call by the observer at 15-14 in the
> > Minnesota game, if you image sequence that Michigan's Derrick Wolbert
> > (maybe?) went through Minnesota's Austin Juds arm while laying out
> > into his hip. That is a lot of contact during cap to overrule a foul
> > call...
>
> Looked like a pretty good D to me. Not that much contact from what I
> could see on that video.  Looks like the defender and the receiver
> were putting their arms in the same space at the same time.  I was
> more curious, but couldn't tell, if the Michigan player who
> immediately hucked it actually travelled.  Too tough to tell from the
> small video and since he had no marker and the observer couldn't call
> it we will never know.
>
> Peterson

And on a related note, did the player who hucked it have to check the
disc in (given that there was clearly a stoppage of play for the
observer to make a ruling)? Hard to tell how/if play was restarted
after the stoppage.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25131 is a reply to message #25129] Fri, 22 May 2009 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mcjafers
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So much for the three peat.

Can't wait to read pastry and the bean's explanation of the hofag melt
down.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25138 is a reply to message #25129] Fri, 22 May 2009 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bslade86
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On May 22, 4:41 pm, Matt <zeledo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 3:25 pm, Peterson <pevesteter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 3:59 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Just watched clip1 on the upa site.
>
> > > Bad overruling on the foul call by the observer at 15-14 in the
> > > Minnesota game, if you image sequence that Michigan's Derrick Wolbert
> > > (maybe?) went through Minnesota's Austin Juds arm while laying out
> > > into his hip. That is a lot of contact during cap to overrule a foul
> > > call...
>
> > Looked like a pretty good D to me. Not that much contact from what I
> > could see on that video.  Looks like the defender and the receiver
> > were putting their arms in the same space at the same time.  I was
> > more curious, but couldn't tell, if the Michigan player who
> > immediately hucked it actually travelled.  Too tough to tell from the
> > small video and since he had no marker and the observer couldn't call
> > it we will never know.
>
> > Peterson
>
> And on a related note, did the player who hucked it have to check the
> disc in (given that there was clearly a stoppage of play for the
> observer to make a ruling)?  Hard to tell how/if play was restarted
> after the stoppage.

Looks like he ground-checked it. I could see that foul call go either
way- at first it looked like a definite foul since the Michigan player
comes down and through Minnesota's arm, but the Michigan player
actually seems to be in the space first so it might not be. If you go
for a downward swipe and hit someone's arm, though, they will call a
foul every every time.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25142 is a reply to message #25138] Fri, 22 May 2009 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sanfordcw
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On May 22, 3:13 pm, Slade <bslad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 4:41 pm, Matt <zeledo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 3:25 pm, Peterson <pevesteter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 3:59 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > Just watched clip1 on the upa site.
>
> > > > Bad overruling on the foul call by the observer at 15-14 in the
> > > > Minnesota game, if you image sequence that Michigan's Derrick Wolbert
> > > > (maybe?) went through Minnesota's Austin Juds arm while laying out
> > > > into his hip. That is a lot of contact during cap to overrule a foul
> > > > call...
>
> > > Looked like a pretty good D to me. Not that much contact from what I
> > > could see on that video.  Looks like the defender and the receiver
> > > were putting their arms in the same space at the same time.  I was
> > > more curious, but couldn't tell, if the Michigan player who
> > > immediately hucked it actually travelled.  Too tough to tell from the
> > > small video and since he had no marker and the observer couldn't call
> > > it we will never know.
>
> > > Peterson
>
> > And on a related note, did the player who hucked it have to check the
> > disc in (given that there was clearly a stoppage of play for the
> > observer to make a ruling)?  Hard to tell how/if play was restarted
> > after the stoppage.
>
> Looks like he ground-checked it. I could see that foul call go either
> way- at first it looked like a definite foul since the Michigan player
> comes down and through Minnesota's arm, but the Michigan player
> actually seems to be in the space first so it might not be. If you go
> for a downward swipe and hit someone's arm, though, they will call a
> foul every every time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

right, but can the thrower ground check it after an observer ruling?
too old for these wacky college rules. does the D have to check it
in? if so the thrower pulled a fast one.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25148 is a reply to message #25077] Fri, 22 May 2009 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alex Peters
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Anyone else get a $50 parking ticket for parking in the big lot on
the left where it seemed like everyone was parking? There weren't any
instructions on where to park or not to park on the website and I
didn't see any signs directing people to special frisbee parking.
It's an OSU ticket not from a city cop or anything, what happens if
you just don't pay it?
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25153 is a reply to message #25148] Fri, 22 May 2009 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colinmcintyre
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On May 22, 9:31 pm, Alex Peters <muis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone else  get a $50 parking ticket for parking in the big lot on
> the left where it seemed like everyone was parking?  There weren't any
> instructions on where to park or not to park on the website and I
> didn't see any signs directing people to special frisbee parking.
> It's an OSU ticket not from a city cop or anything, what happens if
> you just don't pay it?

Fortunately found out just in time that that was a pay lot or
something. Then followed the "special event parking" signs to the big
lot at the end of the street.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25162 is a reply to message #25090] Fri, 22 May 2009 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
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On May 22, 12:22 pm, Austin <wabartenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looks like Cornell silenced a little bit of all the AC hype thats been
> > going on around here! Probably earned some respect in the process too
> > from everyone who says the metro east is garbage
>
> nope. still garbage. still great at calling "ticky tack" fouls though.

Whaaaaaaaa whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa we lost 15-10 it must be shenanigans
whaaaaaaaaa. Clearly the only outcome here is that the metro east
cheats because we're big babies whaaaaaaaa....
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25170 is a reply to message #25142] Sat, 23 May 2009 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mpefritz
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On May 22, 6:32 pm, sanfor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 22, 3:13 pm, Slade <bslad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 4:41 pm, Matt <zeledo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 3:25 pm, Peterson <pevesteter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 3:59 pm, keith.larsen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > Just watched clip1 on the upa site.
>
> > > > > Bad overruling on the foul call by the observer at 15-14 in the
> > > > > Minnesota game, if you image sequence that Michigan's Derrick Wolbert
> > > > > (maybe?) went through Minnesota's Austin Juds arm while laying out
> > > > > into his hip. That is a lot of contact during cap to overrule a foul
> > > > > call...
>
> > > > Looked like a pretty good D to me. Not that much contact from what I
> > > > could see on that video.  Looks like the defender and the receiver
> > > > were putting their arms in the same space at the same time.  I was
> > > > more curious, but couldn't tell, if the Michigan player who
> > > > immediately hucked it actually travelled.  Too tough to tell from the
> > > > small video and since he had no marker and the observer couldn't call
> > > > it we will never know.
>
> > > > Peterson
>
> > > And on a related note, did the player who hucked it have to check the
> > > disc in (given that there was clearly a stoppage of play for the
> > > observer to make a ruling)?  Hard to tell how/if play was restarted
> > > after the stoppage.
>
> > Looks like he ground-checked it. I could see that foul call go either
> > way- at first it looked like a definite foul since the Michigan player
> > comes down and through Minnesota's arm, but the Michigan player
> > actually seems to be in the space first so it might not be. If you go
> > for a downward swipe and hit someone's arm, though, they will call a
> > foul every every time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> right, but can the thrower ground check it after an observer ruling?
> too old for these wacky college rules.  does the D have to check it
> in?  if so the thrower pulled a fast one.

Just watched the play from Minnesota vs Michigan on the UPA Open
Highlights Day 1 Round 1. If there are no new rules for observed
restarts, VIII.D.4.a seems to apply. http://upa.org/ultimate/rules/11th#VIII.D
The thrower did self-check the disc in, but the defense did not seem
to signal readiness and players were certainly moving before the self
check happened.

I can understand how a withdrawn foul call could be considered a "Play
On", but I do not see it addressed in the ruels. Certainly an
overruled foul where everyone stops cannot be treated like a "Play On"
situation.

On the call: Toad, this is where a small discussion helps. O calls a
foul. D says "No way, I did not hit your hand." O says "you hip
checked me." D says "okay...no contest" or at least isn't as mad and
says contest a little less loudly. I am unsure the observer can
overrule the call without knowing WHY the foul was called. I'd be
interested to know in this case. Anyway, the O may have felt
something on the hand or hip which was unobservable from the angle
given.

pacemaker
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25202 is a reply to message #25148] Sat, 23 May 2009 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rufio
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It's an OSU ticket not from a city cop or anything, what happens if
> you just don't pay it?

I believe OSU's traffic and parking department will hunt you down via
license plate number. You can appeal the ticket online and they
usually cut you a break if you are from out of town and have a good
excuse.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25211 is a reply to message #25170] Sat, 23 May 2009 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On May 23, 7:43 am, mpefr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Just watched the play from Minnesota vs Michigan on the UPA Open
> Highlights Day 1 Round 1.  If there are no new rules for observed
> restarts,


seems like you just answered your own question right there......or
asked the right question......or came up with the obvious solution
without having to ask the question in the first place.
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------





>
> I can understand how a withdrawn foul call could be considered a "Play
> On", but I do not see it addressed in the ruels.


dosent that situation fall under some "gay assed spirity clause"?
because.....we all know how someone taking back a call is, after all,
the goal of the rule set to begin with. The fact that the upa rules
have no verbage to deal with this dosent surprise me though. they are
dumbfucks after all.
------------------------------------------------------------ ----




>
> On the call:  Toad, this is where a small discussion helps.

no, this is where not having players envolved to begin with IS THE
SOLUTION. Ya see, with observers and players sharing the
responsibilities of game management you will always be left with "grey
area" or "no man land" in which it isnt evident which party should
take the initiative an managing the restart of play.....THIS IS WHY I
SAY......have refs MANAGE resuming all play and SIGNIFYING THAT
RESUMPTION with a whistle.
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------

 O calls a
> foul.  D says "No way, I did not hit your hand."  O says "you hip
> checked me."  D says "okay...no contest" or at least isn't as mad and
> says contest a little less loudly.  I am unsure the observer can
> overrule the call without knowing WHY the foul was called.

AND i'm pretty sure this kind of confusion is yet another reason wh
other sports dont allow there players to be envolved in the rule
enforcement process...........in any official competition anyways.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25212 is a reply to message #25148] Sat, 23 May 2009 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On May 22, 9:31 pm, Alex Peters <muis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's an OSU ticket not from a city cop or anything, what happens if
> you just don't pay it?


wouldnt that be kinda like cheating in ultimate? isnt that like the
sort of "spirit" that is clearly defined in the rules of ultimate? So
what happens if you dont pay it is that you will have to live with the
fact that you are a dishonest, cheating schmuck.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25226 is a reply to message #25212] Sat, 23 May 2009 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
Messages: 129
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On May 23, 1:08 pm, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> On May 22, 9:31 pm, Alex Peters <muis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's an OSU ticket not from a city cop or anything, what happens if
> > you just don't pay it?
>
> wouldnt that be kinda like cheating in ultimate?  isnt that like the
> sort of "spirit" that is clearly defined in the rules of ultimate?  So
> what happens if you dont pay it is that you will have to live with the
> fact that you are a dishonest, cheating schmuck.

Looks like one of the two metro east teams has to make it to quarters
since we've got an all ME B2 vs. C3 pre-quarters! Exciting!
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25228 is a reply to message #25226] Sat, 23 May 2009 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oreo
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Looks like pitt is going to have a chance to make up that nasty
spanking cornell gave them at regionals. Very exciting
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25230 is a reply to message #25226] Sat, 23 May 2009 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Daag Alemayehu
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On May 23, 5:19 pm, Jared <emos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like one of the two metro east teams has to make it to quarters
> since we've got an all ME B2 vs. C3 pre-quarters! Exciting!

What a big difference that 1-point come-from-behind win by Wisconsin
makes to Pitt's tournament. If Pitt held onto the lead they had for
literally the entire game their prequarters match is against champies
noobs Luther, who have only 1 win under their belts. Lose the game
and instead they have to face a strong Cornell team who has only lost
1 game so far and also spanked the silly out of Pitt at regionals.
Yikes.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25233 is a reply to message #25230] Sat, 23 May 2009 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wabartenstein
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On May 23, 5:42 pm, Daag Alemayehu <daag.alemay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 5:19 pm, Jared <emos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like one of the two metro east teams has to make it to quarters
> > since we've got an all ME B2 vs. C3 pre-quarters! Exciting!
>
> What a big difference that 1-point come-from-behind win by Wisconsin
> makes to Pitt's tournament.  If Pitt held onto the lead they had for
> literally the entire game their prequarters match is against champies
> noobs Luther, who have only 1 win under their belts.  Lose the game
> and instead they have to face a strong Cornell team who has only lost
> 1 game so far and also spanked the silly out of Pitt at regionals.
> Yikes.

Callfest '09. Send every observer over to this one. This game will be
like pulling teeth. Hopefully those new york times writers don't watch
this game and write another bad story depicting ultimate in a terrible
way.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25236 is a reply to message #25233] Sat, 23 May 2009 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Douglas T Lilley
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On May 23, 6:06 pm, Austin <wabartenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 5:42 pm, Daag Alemayehu <daag.alemay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 23, 5:19 pm, Jared <emos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Looks like one of the two metro east teams has to make it to quarters
> > > since we've got an all ME B2 vs. C3 pre-quarters! Exciting!
>
> > What a big difference that 1-point come-from-behind win by Wisconsin
> > makes to Pitt's tournament.  If Pitt held onto the lead they had for
> > literally the entire game their prequarters match is against champies
> > noobs Luther, who have only 1 win under their belts.  Lose the game
> > and instead they have to face a strong Cornell team who has only lost
> > 1 game so far and also spanked the silly out of Pitt at regionals.
> > Yikes.
>
> Callfest '09. Send every observer over to this one. This game will be
> like pulling teeth. Hopefully those new york times writers don't watch
> this game and write another bad story depicting ultimate in a terrible
> way.

Need a couple of strong observers then. Glad to hear the NYT is at
nationals. No player debate at the nationals should be allowed to
last more than 15 seconds or so. There should be immediate referral
if the issue is not decided quickly. And TMF/PMFs for bullshit calls.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25237 is a reply to message #25233] Sat, 23 May 2009 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
Messages: 8204
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On May 23, 6:06 pm, Austin <wabartenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Callfest '09. Send every observer over to this one. This game will be
> like pulling teeth. Hopefully those new york times writers don't watch
> this game and write another bad story depicting ultimate in a terrible
> way.


actually a game between two teams that are rivals? and have some
obvious chippyness/intensity to em IS the kind of thing that you would
want written about the sport. Contrary to what ultimate has
brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
nice guy, spirity bullshit.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25238 is a reply to message #25237] Sat, 23 May 2009 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Daag Alemayehu
Messages: 249
Registered: September 2008
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On May 23, 6:18 pm, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> actually a game between two teams that are rivals? and have some
> obvious chippyness/intensity to em IS the kind of thing that you would
> want written about the sport.  Contrary to what ultimate has
> brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
> nice guy, spirity bullshit.

It could go either way. They could see a tight, callfest-y type game
and think, "Damn, I didn't realize frisbee games could get so
intense. This is kinda cool." Or, they could see the same game and
think, "God what a bunch of whiners. How can anybody stand to watch
this garbage? They stop running every 30 seconds. I could play this
'sport' in my house shoes."
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25243 is a reply to message #25230] Sat, 23 May 2009 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jared Smith
Messages: 129
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On May 23, 5:42 pm, Daag Alemayehu <daag.alemay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 5:19 pm, Jared <emos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like one of the two metro east teams has to make it to quarters
> > since we've got an all ME B2 vs. C3 pre-quarters! Exciting!
>
> What a big difference that 1-point come-from-behind win by Wisconsin
> makes to Pitt's tournament.  If Pitt held onto the lead they had for
> literally the entire game their prequarters match is against champies
> noobs Luther, who have only 1 win under their belts.  Lose the game
> and instead they have to face a strong Cornell team who has only lost
> 1 game so far and also spanked the silly out of Pitt at regionals.
> Yikes.

Looks like Luther is doing surprisingly well against Wisconsin though.
Not saying they'll win the game or anything but certainly doing well
enough not to be completely written off at least...
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25246 is a reply to message #25238] Sat, 23 May 2009 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
Messages: 8204
Registered: April 2009
Senior Member
On May 23, 6:41 pm, Daag Alemayehu <daag.alemay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 6:18 pm, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
>
> > actually a game between two teams that are rivals? and have some
> > obvious chippyness/intensity to em IS the kind of thing that you would
> > want written about the sport.  Contrary to what ultimate has
> > brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
> > nice guy, spirity bullshit.
>
> It could go either way.  They could see a tight, callfest-y type game
> and think, "Damn, I didn't realize frisbee games could get so
> intense.  This is kinda cool."  Or, they could see the same game and
> think, "God what a bunch of whiners.  How can anybody stand to watch
> this garbage?  They stop running every 30 seconds.  I could play this
> 'sport' in my house shoes."

well, as long as mike g was working the game youde figure the whinney
ult-debating woulda been kept in check........speaking of which, whats
the deal with any refzerver reports and the use of the irs on travels
and active up/down calls? any controversies as of yet?
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25257 is a reply to message #25246] Sat, 23 May 2009 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDonnie
Messages: 131
Registered: October 2008
Senior Member
I just came here to say something about Penn's women. Seriously, the
last seed overall is now in the Quarters. I heard they have like 15
freshmen? If that's true, it only makes their performance more
impressive. I'd say something about Cinderella but....you know, there
are no Cinderellas. Gotta be impressed though.

-Donnie
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25263 is a reply to message #25237] Sat, 23 May 2009 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wabartenstein
Messages: 143
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
Contrary to what ultimate has
> brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
> nice guy, spirity bullshit.

haha. so this is why everyone on this blog hates you. damn, I get it
now. You know it's bad when people have heard of you because of your
ridiculous blog posts.

so you just hate happiness in general? If I spent any time around you
I think I might want to hurt myself.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25267 is a reply to message #25263] Sat, 23 May 2009 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
morrisonkat
Messages: 2
Registered: May 2009
Junior Member
On May 23, 10:56 pm, Austin <wabartenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Contrary to what ultimate has
>
> > brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
> > nice guy, spirity bullshit.
>
> haha. so this is why everyone on this blog hates you. damn, I get it
> now. You know it's bad when people have heard of you because of your
> ridiculous blog posts.
>
> so you just hate happiness in general? If I spent any time around you
> I think I might want to hurt myself.

I don't hate him and to be honest, you sound like a moron with this
post. you might hurt yourself? you sound so soft.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25284 is a reply to message #25211] Sun, 24 May 2009 03:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MrPinto
Messages: 601
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On May 23, 10:04 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> > I can understand how a withdrawn foul call could be considered a "Play
> > On", but I do not see it addressed in the ruels.
>
> dosent that situation fall under some "gay assed spirity clause"?
> because.....we all know how someone taking back a call is, after all,
> the goal of the rule set to begin with.  The fact that the upa rules
> have no verbage to deal with this dosent surprise me though.  they are
> dumbfucks after all.

What difference does spirit make here? There was a call, it was
rescinded. This is basically identical to an "inadvertent
whistle" (the technical term in the NFL for "ref fucked up,") or an
"offsetting penalty." No foul, no penalty, but play has stopped and
must be restarted. Even though you don't know the rule here, there is
one...

> no, this is where not having players envolved to begin with IS THE
> SOLUTION.

How so? What difference does it make if the ref stopped play or the
players? Or if the ref checks it in, or the player does? The
question is: are players allowed to move before the handler checks
(like in basketball), or must they remain still (like in football)?
Note that in both basketball and football, play resumes on player
action (the inbound pass and the snap). The ref just gives clearance
that the offense can initiate whenever they'd like, within a given
time window.

>   O calls a
>
> > foul.  D says "No way, I did not hit your hand."  O says "you hip
> > checked me."  D says "okay...no contest" or at least isn't as mad and
> > says contest a little less loudly.  I am unsure the observer can
> > overrule the call without knowing WHY the foul was called.
>
> AND i'm pretty sure this kind of confusion is yet another reason wh
> other sports dont allow there players to be envolved in the rule
> enforcement process...........in any official competition anyways.

Or a ref in the NFL blows a call and we all wait around for the video
replay. Or even one ref makes a call, the other makes some other
call, they confer to see which should take precedence, ask the coach
if he's going to decline, yaddayadda. Six one way, half dozen the
other...

~p
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25285 is a reply to message #25246] Sun, 24 May 2009 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MrPinto
Messages: 601
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On May 23, 4:31 pm, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> On May 23, 6:41 pm, Daag Alemayehu <daag.alemay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 23, 6:18 pm, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
>
> > > actually a game between two teams that are rivals? and have some
> > > obvious chippyness/intensity to em IS the kind of thing that you would
> > > want written about the sport.  Contrary to what ultimate has
> > > brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
> > > nice guy, spirity bullshit.
>
> > It could go either way.  They could see a tight, callfest-y type game
> > and think, "Damn, I didn't realize frisbee games could get so
> > intense.  This is kinda cool."  Or, they could see the same game and
> > think, "God what a bunch of whiners.  How can anybody stand to watch
> > this garbage?  They stop running every 30 seconds.  I could play this
> > 'sport' in my house shoes."

Meh, basketball averages more than a foul a minute, right? And there
are more timeouts... and quarter breaks instead of half time.
Football spends more time between plays than playing... I think
Americans flip out whenever a sport gets played non-stop. It tweaks
them out. That's why soccer can't catch on. Too much stuff
happening, not enough time for getting beer, drinking beer, and
throwing the empties at the mothers and girlfriends of the opposing
team.

> well, as long as mike g was working the game youde figure the whinney
> ult-debating woulda been kept in check........speaking of which, whats
> the deal with any refzerver reports and the use of the irs on travels
> and active up/down calls?  any controversies as of yet?

I'm sure that there'll be some molehill from which a mountain can be
projected.

~p
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25309 is a reply to message #25285] Sun, 24 May 2009 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chrisdatkinson2
Messages: 83
Registered: September 2008
Member
> I'm sure that there'll be some molehill from which a mountain can be
> projected.
>
>      ~p

spot on.
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25336 is a reply to message #25263] Sun, 24 May 2009 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
Messages: 8204
Registered: April 2009
Senior Member
On May 23, 10:56 pm, Austin <wabartenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Contrary to what ultimate has
>
> > brainwashed you to believe, sports arent about a bunch of boy scout,
> > nice guy, spirity bullshit.
>
> haha. so this is why everyone on this blog hates you.


1st off, not everybody hates me here......its mainly the spirit
zealots (as i do get alot of supportive personal fan emails). And
2nd, even those that hate me seem to chime in on a regular basis and
agree wiht my ideas/suggestions. Point being, when you are a playa
like me, being hated on is normal (and a little bit flattering).
Either way, like i could give a shit weather people like or hate
me......my mission is for the sake of the betterment and progression
of the sport. There are bound to be some casualties along the way and
i'm fully aware of and ok with that.
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------


damn, I get it
> now. You know it's bad when people have heard of you because of your
> ridiculous blog posts.


eh, it works the other way too so it all evens out in the end.
------------------------------------------------------------ -------


>
> so you just hate happiness in general?

wehat does happieness have to do with sports?
-----------------------------------------------------



If I spent any time around you
> I think I might want to hurt myself.

if you spent any time around me i'd probably want to hurt you
too......so i guess you could say that "the feelings mutual"
Re: Nationals Talk [message #25340 is a reply to message #25284] Sun, 24 May 2009 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
ulticritic
Messages: 8204
Registered: April 2009
Senior Member
On May 24, 6:49 am, pinto <MrPi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What difference does spirit make here?  There was a call, it was
> rescinded.  This is basically identical to an "inadvertent
> whistle" (the technical term in the NFL for "ref fucked up,") or an
> "offsetting penalty."  No foul, no penalty, but play has stopped and
> must be restarted.  Even though you don't know the rule here, there is
> one...


but the thing is, YOU DIPSHIT, is that there is a HUGE difference from
a ref inadvertinly using a whistle and a player reacting from his
emotional attatchment and partiality to the idea of HIS TEAM
BENEFITING from a call. The fact that you cant see that difference is
what make you one ate up MF.
------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------
>
> How so?

if you really have to ask that question then you are too far gone to
waste any time on trying to explain it
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