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more ultimate in the news [message #21841] Wed, 29 April 2009 09:42 Go to next message
Manzell
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again, the Seattle Times boner checks ultimate:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/20091416 48_danny29.html

Discuss.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21869 is a reply to message #21841] Wed, 29 April 2009 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Broo
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I enjoyed reading that article. It showed someone using Ultimate as a
means to improving peoples' lives. The author also seemed to be
impressed with the self-officiating aspect of the game. Sure, the
author lumped Ultimate in with what he deemed "quirky" sports, but in
reality, wouldn't you say it IS a quirky sport? Quirky isn't a bad
thing, it just means the sport has it's differences from the norm,
which I agree with. Props to Jamshid for getting ultimate some ink.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21874 is a reply to message #21869] Wed, 29 April 2009 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul
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On Apr 29, 8:21 pm, Broo <marc.brouille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I enjoyed reading that article.  It showed someone using Ultimate as a
> means to improving peoples' lives.  The author also seemed to be
> impressed with the self-officiating aspect of the game.  Sure, the
> author lumped Ultimate in with what he deemed "quirky" sports, but in
> reality, wouldn't you say it IS a quirky sport?  Quirky isn't a bad
> thing, it just means the sport has it's differences from the norm,
> which I agree with.  Props to Jamshid for getting ultimate some ink.

Is anybody from the area? If they're strapped for funds I'd buy one of
their jerseys/shirts. The ultimate community is notoriously cheap but
hopefully I'm not the only one who would want to support them.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21929 is a reply to message #21874] Wed, 29 April 2009 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ncwohl31
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Very good article. On a similar note, this video also shows the great
potential Ultimate has for the young population all over the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Bu7glt9yE
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21954 is a reply to message #21869] Thu, 30 April 2009 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 29, 8:21 pm, Broo <marc.brouille...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I enjoyed reading that article.  It showed someone using Ultimate as a
> means to improving peoples' lives.  The author also seemed to be
> impressed with the self-officiating aspect of the game.

that IS the novelty of ultimate for journalists, isnt it? Havent read
it yet but i could probably tell you EXACTLY what it says........as
newspaper atritcals about ultimate are soooooooooo generic.
-----------------------------------------------------------


 Sure, the
> author lumped Ultimate in with what he deemed "quirky" sports, but in
> reality, wouldn't you say it IS a quirky sport?


but just because it IS now dosent mean it has to be that way in the
future. Lots of people would like to see it move past the quirky
stage. Unfortunately ego-like acts tend to keep it there.
------------------------------------------------------------ ------



 Quirky isn't a bad
> thing,


it sure aint a good thing!
-------------------------------------------------------



it just means the sport has it's differences from the norm,
> which I agree with.


you agree that there ARE differences (if so you musta graduated from
the university of the FUCKING OBVIOUS!!), or.......do you agree that
there SHOULD BE differences from the norm. If the latter......WHY?
Isnt the fact that you play with a disc rather than a ball different
enough?




 
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21955 is a reply to message #21929] Thu, 30 April 2009 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 1:06 am, ncwoh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very good article. On a similar note, this video also shows the great
> potential Ultimate has for the young population all over the world.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Bu7glt9yE

so how are mutual respect, integrity, freindship, non violance and fun
exclusively unique qualities to ultimate frisbee any more so than any
other sport????? WHAT A LOAD OF PROPAGANDA!!!!!! ALL sports help to
foster such qualities (accept for mabe non violence in collision
sports).

The ego on you people to think that ultimate is superior to other
sports in this reguard. And remember, its those same sotg rules that
you covet and flourish that also enable people to act like complete
jack asses in common disputes without the supervision and disipline of
an impartial 3rd party arbatrater.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21959 is a reply to message #21955] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SHZD
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On Apr 30, 7:51 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 1:06 am, ncwoh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Very good article. On a similar note, this video also shows the great
> > potential Ultimate has for the young population all over the world.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Bu7glt9yE
>
> so how are mutual respect, integrity, freindship, non violance and fun
> exclusively unique qualities to ultimate frisbee any more so than any
> other sport?????  WHAT A LOAD OF PROPAGANDA!!!!!!  ALL  sports help to
> foster such qualities (accept for mabe non violence in collision
> sports).
>
> The ego on you people to think that ultimate is superior to other
> sports in this reguard.  And remember, its those same sotg rules that
> you covet and flourish that also enable people to act like complete
> jack asses in common disputes without the supervision and disipline of
> an impartial 3rd  party arbatrater.

jesus christ give it a rest
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21962 is a reply to message #21959] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Seppo[1]
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I thought this was a discussion about the article? :-/

Personally, I think it's a load of BS. Why must our authorities be so
uptight here in America? Something like this takes place in
Australia, and they laugh it off. "Good on ya boyz!" Jesus, it was a
friggin naked point. RELAX student senate!

*sigh*

- Seppo #22

====================
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The Place To Talk Ultimate.
http://www.ultitalk.com
====================
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21965 is a reply to message #21959] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 9:05 am, DOD <dco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> jesus christ give it a rest


the irony is that THIS is the same thing i'm saying to you spirit
zealots with all your "superiority/sotg/jesus complex" that you people
have with your fantasy "save the world thru ultimate" campaigh. GIVE
IT A FUCKIN REST AND JUST BE A NORMAL SPORT ALREADY. I mean, is just
being a normal sport really all that bad? Aside from all the obvious
benefits that would come from ultimate conforming WHAT is it that
ultimate would lose that threatens you spirit zealots so. Is it just
the ritual of get nakid that you dont want to lose (you'll notice
where that "ritual" got oragon ulti), the ability to endlessly ult-
debate, what? It cant be the freedom to "smoke(and drink) it up",
because you cant pull that off anymore, as we did back in the day.

As colin cowherd said yesterday......"you just dont get it.......and
on top of that, you dont get that you dont get it either"
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21966 is a reply to message #21962] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 9:17 am, "Seppo #22" <matthew.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:.

> I thought this was a discussion about the article?  :-/

its about whatever it gets made about. this is rsd (where hijacking
threads is a reality) not ultitalk (where i dont know what happens
cause i never go there)
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>
> Personally, I think it's a load of BS.  Why must our authorities be so
> uptight here in America?  Something like this takes place in
> Australia, and they laugh it off.  "Good on ya boyz!"  Jesus, it was a
> friggin naked point.  RELAX student senate!

actually it was underage drinking, speeding violations AND a nakid
point. The nakid point being the perverbial "straw". Try and keep up
there seppo. At least you didnt plead with rsd to take this
discussion to ulti talk though. Your like the kid in the neighborhood
that has the sweet pool but STILL cant seem to make any friends.
>
> - Seppo #22

and why would anyone ever give a shit what # you are???????
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21967 is a reply to message #21966] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
throw
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General reminder to the ultimate community:

Toad Leber is Our idiot...but we are willing to rent him out for $10 a
month.

Hank & Co.
www.thisisultimate.com
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21969 is a reply to message #21955] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
adam wiseman
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say flourish again
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21970 is a reply to message #21969] Thu, 30 April 2009 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
throw
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furish...

Lance Marput
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21987 is a reply to message #21967] Thu, 30 April 2009 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AndrewZill
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On Apr 30, 8:40 am, i...@ThisIsUltimate.com wrote:
> General reminder to the ultimate community:
>
> Toad Leber is Our idiot...but we are willing to rent him out for $10 a
> month.

Your idiot, not ours. I happen to agree with almost everything he
says and I'd like to encourage him to continue asking the important
questions and making the important points that need to be made
regarding ultimate.

> Hank & Co.www.thisisultimate.com

Meanwhile, I think you and the rest of your gang are a bunch of idots.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #21991 is a reply to message #21987] Thu, 30 April 2009 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 10:52 am, AndrewZ...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> .  I happen to agree with almost everything he
> says

"almost" everything????????
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22012 is a reply to message #21991] Thu, 30 April 2009 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ncwohl31
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"GIVE IT A FUCKIN REST AND JUST BE A NORMAL SPORT ALREADY. I mean, is
just being a normal sport really all that bad?" ----- I think the
problem you don't understand is that Ultimate is NOT a normal sport.
If it was a "normal" sport, schools would recognize Ultimate as such.
It is still at a stage where most people you tell about the sport
associate it with another form of frisbee golf. It would be great if
Ultimate would be 'normal' sport, it has all those qualities. It will
never reach the level of Football, Basketball, Baseball, etc. but
reaching a level comparable to Lacrosse would be a great.

"you just dont get it......and on top of that, you dont get that you
dont get it either" ----- Your egotistical, opinionated, biased
argument makes it seem that you are the one that just doesn't get it.
Any person trying to prove a point needs to at least be open to
reasonable debate on the topic. Failing to do so proves you cannot
make a viable statement that would hold up against scrutiny and
continue to support your point. You want to debate the topic? Let me
know, any time; any place

KU - National Debate Champions!
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22013 is a reply to message #21965] Thu, 30 April 2009 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
caseyboy24
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On Apr 30, 8:29 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 9:05 am, DOD <dco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > jesus christ give it a rest
>
> the irony is that THIS is the same thing i'm saying to you spirit
> zealots with all your "superiority/sotg/jesus complex" that you people
> have with your fantasy "save the world thru ultimate" campaigh.  GIVE
> IT A FUCKIN REST AND JUST BE A NORMAL SPORT ALREADY.  I mean, is just
> being a normal sport really all that bad?  Aside from all the obvious
> benefits that would come from ultimate conforming WHAT is it that
> ultimate would lose that threatens you spirit zealots so.  Is it just
> the ritual of  get nakid that you dont want to lose (you'll notice
> where that "ritual" got oragon ulti), the ability to endlessly ult-
> debate, what?  It cant be the freedom to "smoke(and drink) it up",
> because you cant pull that off anymore, as we did back in the day.
>
> As colin cowherd said yesterday......"you just dont get it.......and
> on top of that, you dont get that you dont get it either"

Yes being a normal sport really is all that bad... I don't think kids
or youths growing up need another football coach to yell at them when
they do something wrong or another referee on the field to see their
coaches argue with (learned behaviors, get it)... and what I really
think we don't need is people like you, obviously you've never
EXPERIENCED ultimate. Personally I love being able to go out and play
a game I love against OPPONENTS I love in a setting I love. I could
care less if there are 1000 people watching or no one watching, it's
the enjoyment that I get out of the game and I think that's what's
unique to ultimate... sure I go out and play basketball and football
and all those sports in pick-up games but to get the chance to travel
all over the country and experience new things with my teammates and
other teams is unique to ultimate.

and you know what... you're the one who doesn't get it and won't ever
get it... so why not get with the program or get the fuck out.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22020 is a reply to message #21991] Thu, 30 April 2009 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AndrewZill
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On Apr 30, 10:01 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 10:52 am, AndrewZ...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > .  I happen to agree with almost everything he
> > says
>
> "almost" everything????????

No two people can possibly agree on everything.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22021 is a reply to message #22012] Thu, 30 April 2009 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 12:55 pm, ncwoh...@gmail.com wrote:.

> ----- I think the
> problem you don't understand is that Ultimate is NOT a normal sport.

but wouldnt i HAVE to understand that in order to campaign for its
normalcy?
------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------
> If it was a "normal" sport, schools would recognize Ultimate as such.

And it would have (ncaa/hs) varsity status? you mean it dosent
already?????
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------
> It is still at a stage where most people you tell about the sport
> associate it with another form of frisbee golf. It would be great if
> Ultimate would be 'normal' sport, it has all those qualities.

then why you givin me shit about campagning for its normalcy?
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It will
> never reach the level of Football, Basketball, Baseball, etc.

hey now, i'm the nostrodomous of ultimate round here. all joking
aside though, there are many that probably though football wouldnt
reach (AND SURPASS) the level of baseball, boxing and horseracing.
Any thing could happen. There should at least be some asperation that
ultimate might be capable of being that big.
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but
> reaching a level comparable to Lacrosse would be a great.

definitely!!!! now thats a more realistic level to aspire to for
now. But it dosent seem theres much being done to get to, much less
keep up with, that level. Face it, lax is leaving ulti in the dust.
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>
> "you just dont get it......and on top of that, you dont get that you
> dont get it either" ----- Your egotistical, opinionated, biased
> argument makes it seem that you are the one that just doesn't get it.

that was actually a colin cowherd(espn talk radio) line.......which i
think applied well to this scenerio. I mean, i dont know one spirit
zealot that REALLY believes that the world cant be saved via ultimate
frisbee and sotg.........do you?
------------------------------------------------------------ --
> Any person trying to prove a point needs to at least be open to
> reasonable debate on the topic. Failing to do so proves you cannot
> make a viable statement that would hold up against scrutiny and
> continue to support your point.

but my point is your point, isnt it? you are directing this reply to
me arent you? its kinda hard to tell.
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You want to debate the topic? Let me
> know, any time; any place

how about here and now.
------------------------------------------------------------
>
> KU - National Debate Champions!

then non refzerved ult-debate sounds like a great second activity for
you.......lots of debating there.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22046 is a reply to message #21954] Thu, 30 April 2009 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jermleeds
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On Apr 30, 5:42 am, ulticri...@live.com spewed:
> On Apr 29, 8:21 pm, Broo <marc.brouille...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I enjoyed reading that article.  It showed someone using Ultimate as a
> > means to improving peoples' lives.  The author also seemed to be
> > impressed with the self-officiating aspect of the game.
>
> that IS the novelty of ultimate for journalists, isnt it?  Havent read
> it yet but i could probably tell you EXACTLY what it says........as
> newspaper atritcals about ultimate are soooooooooo generic.
> -----------------------------------------------------------

Maybe that's what makes ultimate newsworthy. Following me camera guy?
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22047 is a reply to message #22020] Thu, 30 April 2009 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 1:27 pm, AndrewZ...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 10:01 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 10:52 am, AndrewZ...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > .  I happen to agree with almost everything he
> > > says
>
> > "almost" everything????????
>
> No two people can possibly agree on everything.

well surely we agree on everything ultimate related ans sports wise,
right?
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22051 is a reply to message #22046] Thu, 30 April 2009 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 2:49 pm, jermleeds <jermle...@gmail.com> wrote:
..
>
> > that IS the novelty of ultimate for journalists, isnt it?  Havent read
> > it yet but i could probably tell you EXACTLY what it says........as
> > newspaper atritcals about ultimate are soooooooooo generic.
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Maybe that's what makes ultimate newsworthy. Following me camera guy?

but its really NOT all that newsworthy. And, correct me if i'm wrong,
but arent stories about sports ususally in the SPORTS section????
Has ultimate EVER been in the sports section of ANY paper.....Followin
me monkey boy?
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22053 is a reply to message #21841] Thu, 30 April 2009 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sjarmstrong12
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On Apr 29, 10:42 am, MRB <manz...@reaxion.org> wrote:
> again, the Seattle Times boner checks ultimate:http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat /2009141648_danny2...
>
> Discuss.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/30/fashion/30fitness.html?adx nnl=1&adxnnlx=1241118058-wOsZe2cvDSrxt0PHXye94Q
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22058 is a reply to message #22013] Thu, 30 April 2009 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ulticritic
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On Apr 30, 1:10 pm, Casey Boy <caseybo...@gmail.com> wrote:
"
>
> Yes being a normal sport really is all that bad.

seriously???? are you THAT ainti "normal sports". Do you not allow
yourself to watch other "normal" professional sports as well? i feel
really bad for you that you got such a jesus complex when it comes to
this issue.
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... I don't think kids
> or youths growing up need another football coach to yell at them when
> they do something wrong or another referee on the field to see their
> coaches argue with

how is a player/captian yelling at you OR arguments amoungst players
(that are often worse and more explicit than with refs) and better of
different?
------------------------------------------------------------ -----------------------



(learned behaviors, get it)... and what I really
> think we don't need is people like you, obviously you've never
> EXPERIENCED ultimate.

dude, you obviously dont know me very well.
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 Personally I love being able to go out and play
> a game I love against OPPONENTS I love in a setting I love.


so how is that in any way shape or form unique to the sport of
ultimate? except the kinda gay way that you say you "love" your
opponents.
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 I could
> care less if there are 1000 people watching or no one watching, it's
> the enjoyment that I get out of the game and I think that's what's
> unique to ultimate

yea, people NEVER play other sports unless 1000 people are watching.
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.... sure I go out and play basketball and football
> and all those sports in pick-up games


WWWHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?!?!? you mean you actually PLAY
other normal sports? isnt that some kind of ultimate blasphemy?
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but to get the chance to travel
> all over the country and experience new things with my teammates and
> other teams is unique to ultimate.

you got me there again. i dont know any other sport where teammates
ever get to travel to other destinations to play their sport. wierd
thing is, there are both soccer and rugbee tournies here in my home
town of wilm nc that tons of teams from other states (and even
countries) come from to play. Maybe its al virtual because i dont
know how they could compete ultess the TRAVEL. are you really this
much of a dumbass?
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>
> and you know what... you're the one who doesn't get it and won't ever
> get it.

get spirit zealotry? your right. i dont get spirit zealotry at all.
---------------------------------------------------



>.. so why not get with the program or get the fuck out



why dont you get me the fuck out?
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22059 is a reply to message #22051] Thu, 30 April 2009 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jermleeds
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On Apr 30, 11:59 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2:49 pm, jermleeds <jermle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> .
>
>
>
> > > that IS the novelty of ultimate for journalists, isnt it?  Havent read
> > > it yet but i could probably tell you EXACTLY what it says........as
> > > newspaper atritcals about ultimate are soooooooooo generic.
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Maybe that's what makes ultimate newsworthy. Following me camera guy?
>
> but its really NOT all that newsworthy.  And, correct me if i'm wrong,
> but arent stories about sports ususally in the SPORTS section????
> Has ultimate EVER been in the sports section of ANY paper.....Followin
> me monkey boy?

Newsworthy is what an editor and a writer decides makes a good story.
In this case, the story is about how ultimate is used to provide an
outlet, structure, discipline and life skills to at-risk youth. And
self-officiation is a factor that the writer deemed relevant to that
topic. So ultimate is a social force, do a degree that differentiates
it from other sports. That would be what folks in the business world
call a Unique Selling Point. This story presents that unique selling
point effectively. In the PR world, this would be considered a win.
And your response is just to gripe, broken record-style, that
ultimate doesn't receive the same homogenous coverage as other sports.
Pathetic.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22062 is a reply to message #21841] Thu, 30 April 2009 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete
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I think the officiating argument is a little less applicable here. The
article focuses on the self-officiating nature of ultimate to be good
for this group of kids because it teaches conflict resolution in an
appropriate setting. I would agree with that. Comparing the things
needed to develop high level ultimate into a legitimate major sport,
if that is the direction the sport would like to go, and describing
the effective uses of the current sport when applied to inner-city
youths are very different arguments.
Re: more ultimate in the news [message #22066 is a reply to message #22059] Thu, 30 April 2009 13:03 Go to previous message
Douglas T Lilley
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On Apr 30, 3:37 pm, jermleeds <jermle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:59 am, ulticri...@live.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 30, 2:49 pm, jermleeds <jermle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > .
>
> > > > that IS the novelty of ultimate for journalists, isnt it?  Havent read
> > > > it yet but i could probably tell you EXACTLY what it says........as
> > > > newspaper atritcals about ultimate are soooooooooo generic.
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > Maybe that's what makes ultimate newsworthy. Following me camera guy?
>
> > but its really NOT all that newsworthy.  And, correct me if i'm wrong,
> > but arent stories about sports ususally in the SPORTS section????
> > Has ultimate EVER been in the sports section of ANY paper.....Followin
> > me monkey boy?
>
> Newsworthy is what an editor and a writer decides makes a good story.
> In this case, the story is about how ultimate is used to provide an
> outlet, structure, discipline and life skills to at-risk youth. And
> self-officiation is a factor that the writer deemed relevant to that
> topic. So ultimate is a social force, do a degree that differentiates
> it from other sports. That would be what folks in the business world
> call a Unique Selling Point. This story presents that unique selling
> point effectively. In the PR world, this would be considered a win.
> And your response is just to gripe, broken record-style,  that
> ultimate doesn't receive the same homogenous coverage as other sports.
> Pathetic.-


Yup. The Seattle Times piece and the NYT one are both great articles
IMO. We spend a lot of time on rsd debating the details, so every
once in a while it's good to see "outsiders" (the NYT writer is an
Ultimate player) get clued in that we play the best freaking sport in
the universe.
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