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Central Regionals Teams [message #19683] Sun, 19 April 2009 19:52 Go to next message
RWW II
Messages: 6
Registered: January 2009
Junior Member
Northwoods
1. CUT
2. U of M
3. UMD
4. GOP
5. Winona
6. St. Olaf


Lake Superior
1. Wisconsin
2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
3. Marquette
4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
5. Wisconsin-B
6. Beloit


West Plains
1 - Luther
2 - Iowa
3 - Iowa State
4 - Northern Iowa


1. CUT
2. Wisco
3. Luther
4. U of M
5. Eau Claire
6. Iowa
7. UMD
8. Iowa St.
9. Marquette
10. GOP
11. Winona
12. Stevens Point
13. St. Olaf
14. Wisco-B
15. Beloit
16. Northern Iowa
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19788 is a reply to message #19683] Mon, 20 April 2009 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
longer.vi
Messages: 3
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On 4月20日, 上午10时52分, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Northwoods
> 1. CUT
> 2. U of M
> 3. UMD
> 4. GOP
> 5. Winona
> 6. St. Olaf
>
> Lake Superior
> 1. Wisconsin
> 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> 3. Marquette
> 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> 5. Wisconsin-B
> 6. Beloit
>
> West Plains
> 1 - Luther
> 2 - Iowa
> 3 - Iowa State
> 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> 1. CUT
> 2. Wisco
> 3. Luther
> 4. U of M
> 5. Eau Claire
> 6. Iowa
> 7. UMD
> 8. Iowa St.
> 9. Marquette
> 10. GOP
> 11. Winona
> 12. Stevens Point
> 13. St. Olaf
> 14. Wisco-B
> 15. Beloit
> 16. Northern Iowa

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Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19849 is a reply to message #19683] Mon, 20 April 2009 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kasdan
Messages: 2
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
How do you have Eau Claire at 5? They didn't beat Iowa and they lost
to Iowa State who lost to Iowa. I think it should be:

5. Iowa
6. Iowa St.
7. UMD
8. Eau Claire

I put Iowa St. ahead of UMD because Eau Claire beat UMD, when Iowa St.
beat Eau Claire
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19927 is a reply to message #19849] Mon, 20 April 2009 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kevin
Messages: 28
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
Regionals are going to be tough to seed. The RRI Matrix is available
at:

http://upa.org/scores/scores.cgi?page=3&team=5547&te am=1203&team=1271&team=1206&team=1250&team=1 700&team=1697&team=1264&team=1275&team=1691& amp;team=1217&team=1278&team=1190&team=1333& team=9275&team=1334

It gives us:

1 CUT
2 Wisco
3 Luther
4 Minnesota
5 Iowa
6 UMD
7 Eau Claire
8 Iowa State
9 Marquette
10 GOP
11 Olaf
12 Winona
13 Northern Iowa
14 Stevens Point
15 Beloit
16 Wisco B

Reseed because of Sectionals would swap Olaf and Winona and Beloit and
Wisco B.

The toughest area is that 6-10 region. Depending on the argument used,
every team in that area could be two seeds higher or lower. UMD has a
loss at Eau-Claire, but it was during a midweek spring break game, is
that enough to offset UMD's amazing performance against Minnesota in a
harder section that Eau-Claire? Iowa State is 1-0 against Eau Claire
(score reporter has 2-0 with the same score on the same day, so I'm
inclined to think its a mistake), so should they be ahead of them?
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19942 is a reply to message #19927] Tue, 21 April 2009 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael
Messages: 1
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 21, 12:37 am, Kevin <redh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Regionals are going to be tough to seed. The RRI Matrix is available
> at:
>
> http://upa.org/scores/scores.cgi?page=3&team=5547&te am=1203&team=1271...
>
> It gives us:
>
> 1 CUT
> 2 Wisco
> 3 Luther
> 4 Minnesota
> 5 Iowa
> 6 UMD
> 7 Eau Claire
> 8 Iowa State
> 9 Marquette
> 10 GOP
> 11 Olaf
> 12 Winona
> 13 Northern Iowa
> 14 Stevens Point
> 15 Beloit
> 16 Wisco B
>
> Reseed because of Sectionals would swap Olaf and Winona and Beloit and
> Wisco B.
>
> The toughest area is that 6-10 region. Depending on the argument used,
> every team in that area could be two seeds higher or lower. UMD has a
> loss at Eau-Claire, but it was during a midweek spring break game, is
> that enough to offset UMD's amazing performance against Minnesota in a
> harder section that Eau-Claire? Iowa State is 1-0 against Eau Claire
> (score reporter has 2-0 with the same score on the same day, so I'm
> inclined to think its a mistake), so should they be ahead of them?

Are there any murmurs about the format for the central region yet?
bracket or pool play? central is just about the only region without
anything posted on score reporter.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19943 is a reply to message #19849] Tue, 21 April 2009 06:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
srapson
Messages: 45
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 20, 4:04 pm, Kasdan <zkasd...@iastate.edu> wrote:
> How do you have Eau Claire at 5? They didn't beat Iowa and they lost
> to Iowa State who lost to Iowa. I think it should be:
>
> 5. Iowa
> 6. Iowa St.
> 7. UMD
> 8. Eau Claire
>
> I put Iowa St. ahead of UMD because Eau Claire beat UMD, when Iowa St.
> beat Eau Claire

I don't really care, but by that logic it seems it should go

Iowa
Iowa St
Eau Claire
UMD

If Iowa State has a h2h over Eau Claire and Eau Claire has a h2h over
UMD that seems to make more sense, unless I'm missing something here.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19961 is a reply to message #19683] Tue, 21 April 2009 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i_hate_hotmail_greatl
Messages: 2
Registered: April 2009
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On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Northwoods
> 1. CUT
> 2. U of M
> 3. UMD
> 4. GOP
> 5. Winona
> 6. St. Olaf
>
> Lake Superior
> 1. Wisconsin
> 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> 3. Marquette
> 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> 5. Wisconsin-B
> 6. Beloit
>
> West Plains
> 1 - Luther
> 2 - Iowa
> 3 - Iowa State
> 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> 1. CUT
> 2. Wisco
> 3. Luther
> 4. U of M
> 5. Eau Claire
> 6. Iowa
> 7. UMD
> 8. Iowa St.
> 9. Marquette
> 10. GOP
> 11. Winona
> 12. Stevens Point
> 13. St. Olaf
> 14. Wisco-B
> 15. Beloit
> 16.  Northern Iowa

I'm going to have to disagree with the standings. It seems you have
overrated St. Olaf and Winona, both who have had mediocre careers at
best and only climbed the ladder due to close games and flaky defense
at best. While we all love a good Norwegian joke, this is not one of
them, Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
apparently nobody remembers them taking Wisconsin to Universal last
year when Wisconsin was "good"- in a region destined for mediocrity.
Northern Iowa should be a 12th seed, why they're ranked below
Wisconsin B I have no idea, we all know that team is full of tokers
and alcoholics (no offense). Upset watch: Look for the Panthers to
overcome some adversity and punch the naysayers in the jugular.

-Bagel Smith
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19964 is a reply to message #19961] Tue, 21 April 2009 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John.Misra
Messages: 38
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 21, 10:10 am, i_hate_hotmail_grea...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Northwoods
> > 1. CUT
> > 2. U of M
> > 3. UMD
> > 4. GOP
> > 5. Winona
> > 6. St. Olaf
>
> > Lake Superior
> > 1. Wisconsin
> > 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> > 3. Marquette
> > 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> > 5. Wisconsin-B
> > 6. Beloit
>
> > West Plains
> > 1 - Luther
> > 2 - Iowa
> > 3 - Iowa State
> > 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> > 1. CUT
> > 2. Wisco
> > 3. Luther
> > 4. U of M
> > 5. Eau Claire
> > 6. Iowa
> > 7. UMD
> > 8. Iowa St.
> > 9. Marquette
> > 10. GOP
> > 11. Winona
> > 12. Stevens Point
> > 13. St. Olaf
> > 14. Wisco-B
> > 15. Beloit
> > 16.  Northern Iowa
>
> I'm going to have to disagree with the standings.  It seems you have
> overrated St. Olaf and Winona, both who have had mediocre careers at
> best and only climbed the ladder due to close games and flaky defense
> at best.  While we all love a good Norwegian joke, this is not one of
> them, Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
> apparently nobody remembers them taking Wisconsin to Universal last
> year when Wisconsin was "good"- in a region destined for mediocrity.
> Northern Iowa should be a 12th seed, why they're ranked below
> Wisconsin B I have no idea, we all know that team is full of tokers
> and alcoholics (no offense).  Upset watch: Look for the Panthers to
> overcome some adversity and punch the naysayers in the jugular.
>
> -Bagel Smith

Oh great, UNI thread hijack attempt '09. Care to call out any other
players by name? I'm sure you've got plenty of ammUNItion. Don't
worry, this naysayer is already proven wrong, UNI overcame plenty of
adversity by registering for the series this year.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19968 is a reply to message #19961] Tue, 21 April 2009 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bww
Messages: 39
Registered: October 2008
Member
> I'm going to have to disagree with the standings.  It seems you have
> overrated St. Olaf and Winona, both who have had mediocre careers at
> best and only climbed the ladder due to close games and flaky defense
> at best.  While we all love a good Norwegian joke, this is not one of
> them, Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
> apparently nobody remembers them taking Wisconsin to Universal last
> year when Wisconsin was "good"- in a region destined for mediocrity.
> Northern Iowa should be a 12th seed, why they're ranked below
> Wisconsin B I have no idea, we all know that team is full of tokers
> and alcoholics (no offense).  Upset watch: Look for the Panthers to
> overcome some adversity and punch the naysayers in the jugular.
>
> -Bagel Smith

I assume youre not saying UNI isnt full of tokers and alcoholics;
that'd probably destroy your ultimate street cred. Im glad our
reputation proceeds us, I have no idea how that would hurt us.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19974 is a reply to message #19964] Tue, 21 April 2009 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i_hate_hotmail_greatl
Messages: 2
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 21, 10:24 am, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 21, 10:10 am, i_hate_hotmail_grea...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Northwoods
> > > 1. CUT
> > > 2. U of M
> > > 3. UMD
> > > 4. GOP
> > > 5. Winona
> > > 6. St. Olaf
>
> > > Lake Superior
> > > 1. Wisconsin
> > > 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> > > 3. Marquette
> > > 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> > > 5. Wisconsin-B
> > > 6. Beloit
>
> > > West Plains
> > > 1 - Luther
> > > 2 - Iowa
> > > 3 - Iowa State
> > > 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> > > 1. CUT
> > > 2. Wisco
> > > 3. Luther
> > > 4. U of M
> > > 5. Eau Claire
> > > 6. Iowa
> > > 7. UMD
> > > 8. Iowa St.
> > > 9. Marquette
> > > 10. GOP
> > > 11. Winona
> > > 12. Stevens Point
> > > 13. St. Olaf
> > > 14. Wisco-B
> > > 15. Beloit
> > > 16.  Northern Iowa
>
> > I'm going to have to disagree with the standings.  It seems you have
> > overrated St. Olaf and Winona, both who have had mediocre careers at
> > best and only climbed the ladder due to close games and flaky defense
> > at best.  While we all love a good Norwegian joke, this is not one of
> > them, Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
> > apparently nobody remembers them taking Wisconsin to Universal last
> > year when Wisconsin was "good"- in a region destined for mediocrity.
> > Northern Iowa should be a 12th seed, why they're ranked below
> > Wisconsin B I have no idea, we all know that team is full of tokers
> > and alcoholics (no offense).  Upset watch: Look for the Panthers to
> > overcome some adversity and punch the naysayers in the jugular.
>
> > -Bagel Smith
>
> Oh great, UNI thread hijack attempt '09. Care to call out any other
> players by name? I'm sure you've got plenty of ammUNItion. Don't
> worry, this naysayer is already proven wrong, UNI overcame plenty of
> adversity by registering for the series this year.

I don't get the joke.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #19976 is a reply to message #19964] Tue, 21 April 2009 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
snewlin
Messages: 1
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 21, 10:24 am, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 21, 10:10 am, i_hate_hotmail_grea...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Northwoods
> > > 1. CUT
> > > 2. U of M
> > > 3. UMD
> > > 4. GOP
> > > 5. Winona
> > > 6. St. Olaf
>
> > > Lake Superior
> > > 1. Wisconsin
> > > 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> > > 3. Marquette
> > > 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> > > 5. Wisconsin-B
> > > 6. Beloit
>
> > > West Plains
> > > 1 - Luther
> > > 2 - Iowa
> > > 3 - Iowa State
> > > 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> > > 1. CUT
> > > 2. Wisco
> > > 3. Luther
> > > 4. U of M
> > > 5. Eau Claire
> > > 6. Iowa
> > > 7. UMD
> > > 8. Iowa St.
> > > 9. Marquette
> > > 10. GOP
> > > 11. Winona
> > > 12. Stevens Point
> > > 13. St. Olaf
> > > 14. Wisco-B
> > > 15. Beloit
> > > 16.  Northern Iowa
>
> > I'm going to have to disagree with the standings.  It seems you have
> > overrated St. Olaf and Winona, both who have had mediocre careers at
> > best and only climbed the ladder due to close games and flaky defense
> > at best.  While we all love a good Norwegian joke, this is not one of
> > them, Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
> > apparently nobody remembers them taking Wisconsin to Universal last
> > year when Wisconsin was "good"- in a region destined for mediocrity.
> > Northern Iowa should be a 12th seed, why they're ranked below
> > Wisconsin B I have no idea, we all know that team is full of tokers
> > and alcoholics (no offense).  Upset watch: Look for the Panthers to
> > overcome some adversity and punch the naysayers in the jugular.
>
> > -Bagel Smith
>
> Oh great, UNI thread hijack attempt '09. Care to call out any other
> players by name? I'm sure you've got plenty of ammUNItion. Don't
> worry, this naysayer is already proven wrong, UNI overcame plenty of
> adversity by registering for the series this year.

God damn it Smith, aren't you like 30 and married now, retired to a
Florida senior community? The views and opinions of Bagel Smith do not
necessarily represent that of the University of Northern Iowa.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20001 is a reply to message #19961] Tue, 21 April 2009 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sunday_morning31
Messages: 6
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
>
> \Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
\
> -Bagel Smith

Umm apparently you didnt know that you cant be seeded higher than
someone who finished higher than you in your own section
So theres no way Iowa can be ahead of Luther. I pumped for UNI to have
made to regionals and that their program is growing but they should
not be higher than 13.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20005 is a reply to message #19927] Tue, 21 April 2009 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Corley
Messages: 43
Registered: January 2009
Member
On Apr 21, 12:37 am, Kevin <redh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Regionals are going to be tough to seed. The RRI Matrix is available
> at:
>
> http://upa.org/scores/scores.cgi?page=3&team=5547&te am=1203&team=1271...
>
> It gives us:
>
> 1 CUT
> 2 Wisco
> 3 Luther
> 4 Minnesota
> 5 Iowa
> 6 UMD
> 7 Eau Claire
> 8 Iowa State
> 9 Marquette
> 10 GOP
> 11 Olaf
> 12 Winona
> 13 Northern Iowa
> 14 Stevens Point
> 15 Beloit
> 16 Wisco B
>
> Reseed because of Sectionals would swap Olaf and Winona and Beloit and
> Wisco B.
>
> The toughest area is that 6-10 region. Depending on the argument used,
> every team in that area could be two seeds higher or lower. UMD has a
> loss at Eau-Claire, but it was during a midweek spring break game, is
> that enough to offset UMD's amazing performance against Minnesota in a
> harder section that Eau-Claire? Iowa State is 1-0 against Eau Claire
> (score reporter has 2-0 with the same score on the same day, so I'm
> inclined to think its a mistake), so should they be ahead of them?

Actually, the RRI matrix gives:

9. GoP
10. Marquette.

I can only see three possible reasons to seed Marquette above GoP.

The first is that Marquette comes in as the third seed in their
section and GoP as the fourth. But this isn't very convincing.
Northwoods is a much stronger section than Lake Superior, especially
once you get past CUT and Wisconsin. And the rest of these seedings
seem pretty willing to seed a lower finisher from one section above a
higher from another--see Duluth (NW 3rd seed) above Eau Claire (LS
2nd). It's also worth keeping in mind that Whitewater would probably
have finished above Marquette had they gotten their roster together.

The other, and potentially more convincing point in Marquette's favor
is better losses at sectionals--specifically 7-15 to Wisconsin and
11-15 to Eau Claire. GoP, by contrast, loses 4-15 to the CUT and 2-15
to Minnesota. Again, though, these don't seem very comparable. CUT's
been better than Wisconsin all year long (although I'm sure the hodags
will make things exciting at regionals) and Minnesota seems pretty
solidly better Eau Claire.

I think the points in GoP's favor are much more convincing. GoP has a
better RRI and much more impressive victories at sectionals--we can
all agree that Olaf, Winona, and St. John's are better teams than
Steven's Point, Pimpdags, and Michigan Tech. It'd be easier if
Marquette had played GoP, but GoP owns the common opponents--beating
Wisconsin-B by one more point (alright, not that impressive) and
beating St. John's by 15-7 as opposed to 15-14. What's more, GoP beat
Marquette pretty soundly last year at these same regionals.

Marquette may also have a more impressive pre-sectionals record than
GoP, but it's worth pointing out that GoP didn't make cuts this year
until after Southerns. That is, GoP's results from Southerns and Vegas
were tryout teams--sectionals is GoP's first tournament as a spring
team.

I know RRI is a little weird, but I do think GoP's higher RRI puts the
burden of proof on those who would seed Marquette ahead of GoP, and I
simply don't think Marquette's record makes a strong enough case. I'd
argue that the best comparison we have is that common opponent against
St. John's, which GoP owns by a good bit. Let's see:

9. GoP
10. Marquette
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20119 is a reply to message #19849] Tue, 21 April 2009 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
benny.hawkins
Messages: 5
Registered: February 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 20, 4:04 pm, Kasdan <zkasd...@iastate.edu> wrote:
> How do you have Eau Claire at 5? They didn't beat Iowa and they lost
> to Iowa State who lost to Iowa. I think it should be:
>
> 5. Iowa
> 6. Iowa St.
> 7. UMD
> 8. Eau Claire
>
> I put Iowa St. ahead of UMD because Eau Claire beat UMD, when Iowa St.
> beat Eau Claire

Kasdan, did you even see these teams play at high tide?
ownt
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20123 is a reply to message #20119] Tue, 21 April 2009 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
themagicalfro22
Messages: 2
Registered: December 2008
Junior Member
On Apr 21, 9:37 pm, benny.hawk...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 20, 4:04 pm, Kasdan <zkasd...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
> > How do you have Eau Claire at 5? They didn't beat Iowa and they lost
> > to Iowa State who lost to Iowa. I think it should be:
>
> > 5. Iowa
> > 6. Iowa St.
> > 7. UMD
> > 8. Eau Claire
>
> > I put Iowa St. ahead of UMD because Eau Claire beat UMD, when Iowa St.
> > beat Eau Claire
>
> Kasdan, did you even see these teams play at high tide?
> ownt

UMD sucks they don't even deserve a shot, everyone know's Eau Claire
should be 1 overall, god you are all noobs!! CUT will be lucky to make
quarters of Nationals this year as well!
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20130 is a reply to message #20005] Tue, 21 April 2009 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ghenke
Messages: 1
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 21, 10:56 am, Corley <corleyamil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 21, 12:37 am, Kevin <redh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Regionals are going to be tough to seed. The RRI Matrix is available
> > at:
>
> > http://upa.org/scores/scores.cgi?page=3&team=5547&te am=1203&team=1271...
>
> > It gives us:
>
> > 1 CUT
> > 2 Wisco
> > 3 Luther
> > 4 Minnesota
> > 5 Iowa
> > 6 UMD
> > 7 Eau Claire
> > 8 Iowa State
> > 9 Marquette
> > 10 GOP
> > 11 Olaf
> > 12 Winona
> > 13 Northern Iowa
> > 14 Stevens Point
> > 15 Beloit
> > 16 Wisco B
>
> > Reseed because of Sectionals would swap Olaf and Winona and Beloit and
> > Wisco B.
>
> > The toughest area is that 6-10 region. Depending on the argument used,
> > every team in that area could be two seeds higher or lower. UMD has a
> > loss at Eau-Claire, but it was during a midweek spring break game, is
> > that enough to offset UMD's amazing performance against Minnesota in a
> > harder section that Eau-Claire? Iowa State is 1-0 against Eau Claire
> > (score reporter has 2-0 with the same score on the same day, so I'm
> > inclined to think its a mistake), so should they be ahead of them?
>
> Actually, the RRI matrix gives:
>
> 9. GoP
> 10. Marquette.
>
> I can only see three possible reasons to seed Marquette above GoP.
>
> The first is that Marquette comes in as the third seed in their
> section and GoP as the fourth. But this isn't  very convincing.
> Northwoods is a much stronger section than Lake Superior, especially
> once you get past CUT and Wisconsin. And the rest of these seedings
> seem pretty willing to seed a lower finisher from one section above a
> higher from another--see Duluth (NW 3rd seed) above Eau Claire (LS
> 2nd). It's also worth keeping in mind that Whitewater would probably
> have finished above Marquette had they gotten their roster together.
>
> The other, and potentially more convincing point in Marquette's favor
> is better losses at sectionals--specifically 7-15 to Wisconsin and
> 11-15 to Eau Claire. GoP, by contrast, loses 4-15 to the CUT and 2-15
> to Minnesota. Again, though, these don't seem very comparable. CUT's
> been better than Wisconsin all year long (although I'm sure the hodags
> will make things exciting at regionals) and Minnesota seems pretty
> solidly better Eau Claire.
>
> I think the points in GoP's favor are much more convincing. GoP has a
> better RRI and much more impressive victories at sectionals--we can
> all agree that Olaf, Winona, and St. John's are better teams than
> Steven's Point, Pimpdags, and Michigan Tech. It'd be easier if
> Marquette had played GoP, but GoP owns the common opponents--beating
> Wisconsin-B by one more point (alright, not that impressive) and
> beating St. John's by 15-7 as opposed to 15-14. What's more, GoP beat
> Marquette pretty soundly last year at these same regionals.
>
> Marquette may also have a more impressive pre-sectionals record than
> GoP, but it's worth pointing out that GoP didn't make cuts this year
> until after Southerns. That is, GoP's results from Southerns and Vegas
> were tryout teams--sectionals is GoP's first tournament as a spring
> team.
>
> I know RRI is a little weird, but I do think GoP's higher RRI puts the
> burden of proof on those who would seed Marquette ahead of GoP, and I
> simply don't think Marquette's record makes a strong enough case. I'd
> argue that the best comparison we have is that common opponent against
> St. John's, which GoP owns by a good bit. Let's see:
>
> 9. GoP
> 10. Marquette

Marquette does not make cuts at all. They play most players up until
the college series. Also, last year in regionals, Marquette played
everyone against GoP because it was for the 9th place game ie not a
game that mattered.

Gordy
Birdhouse
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20132 is a reply to message #20130] Tue, 21 April 2009 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ultimatephotography
Messages: 422
Registered: September 2008
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As we've learned in other threads,
you should do whatever avoids the
most likely CUT GOP matchup because,
omg, GOP might throw the game.

But you can't know that until
you know the format. Esp. with
the weird 9-10-11 ladders.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20135 is a reply to message #19964] Tue, 21 April 2009 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
frankfurter85
Messages: 34
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 21, 10:24 am, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 21, 10:10 am, i_hate_hotmail_grea...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Northwoods
> > > 1. CUT
> > > 2. U of M
> > > 3. UMD
> > > 4. GOP
> > > 5. Winona
> > > 6. St. Olaf
>
> > > Lake Superior
> > > 1. Wisconsin
> > > 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> > > 3. Marquette
> > > 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> > > 5. Wisconsin-B
> > > 6. Beloit
>
> > > West Plains
> > > 1 - Luther
> > > 2 - Iowa
> > > 3 - Iowa State
> > > 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> > > 1. CUT
> > > 2. Wisco
> > > 3. Luther
> > > 4. U of M
> > > 5. Eau Claire
> > > 6. Iowa
> > > 7. UMD
> > > 8. Iowa St.
> > > 9. Marquette
> > > 10. GOP
> > > 11. Winona
> > > 12. Stevens Point
> > > 13. St. Olaf
> > > 14. Wisco-B
> > > 15. Beloit
> > > 16.  Northern Iowa
>
> > I'm going to have to disagree with the standings.  It seems you have
> > overrated St. Olaf and Winona, both who have had mediocre careers at
> > best and only climbed the ladder due to close games and flaky defense
> > at best.  While we all love a good Norwegian joke, this is not one of
> > them, Luther is a 6th seed at best and the Hawkeyes should be 4th -
> > apparently nobody remembers them taking Wisconsin to Universal last
> > year when Wisconsin was "good"- in a region destined for mediocrity.
> > Northern Iowa should be a 12th seed, why they're ranked below
> > Wisconsin B I have no idea, we all know that team is full of tokers
> > and alcoholics (no offense).  Upset watch: Look for the Panthers to
> > overcome some adversity and punch the naysayers in the jugular.
>
> > -Bagel Smith
>
> Oh great, UNI thread hijack attempt '09. Care to call out any other
> players by name? I'm sure you've got plenty of ammUNItion. Don't
> worry, this naysayer is already proven wrong, UNI overcame plenty of
> adversity by registering for the series this year.

1) Hahahahahahaha...ohhhhhhhhhhhhh UNI.

2) It's weird to think of Luther going to nationals. After watching
that last game between them and Iowa at sectionals, I'd have to say
they have a pretty good chance of winning the whole thing if Ultimate
is switched out in favor of a foul-call-off.

3) Just kidding Luther!

4) Sort of!

5) I think it's funny that that dude up there a little bit took the
time to write out Steven's Point, Marquette and Northern Iowa, but
could only find the stamina to type "Wisco".
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20166 is a reply to message #19683] Wed, 22 April 2009 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
putesch
Messages: 7
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Northwoods
> 1. CUT
> 2. U of M
> 3. UMD
> 4. GOP
> 5. Winona
> 6. St. Olaf
>
> Lake Superior
> 1. Wisconsin
> 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> 3. Marquette
> 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> 5. Wisconsin-B
> 6. Beloit
>
> West Plains
> 1 - Luther
> 2 - Iowa
> 3 - Iowa State
> 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> 1. CUT
> 2. Wisco
> 3. Luther
> 4. U of M
> 5. Eau Claire
> 6. Iowa
> 7. UMD
> 8. Iowa St.
> 9. Marquette
> 10. GOP
> 11. Winona
> 12. Stevens Point
> 13. St. Olaf
> 14. Wisco-B
> 15. Beloit
> 16.  Northern Iowa

1. GoP
2. GoP
3. GoP
4. GoP

What are the other teams at regionals again?
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20178 is a reply to message #20166] Wed, 22 April 2009 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
srapson
Messages: 45
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 22, 7:44 am, pute...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 19, 9:52 pm, RWW II <BW0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Northwoods
> > 1. CUT
> > 2. U of M
> > 3. UMD
> > 4. GOP
> > 5. Winona
> > 6. St. Olaf
>
> > Lake Superior
> > 1. Wisconsin
> > 2. Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> > 3. Marquette
> > 4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> > 5. Wisconsin-B
> > 6. Beloit
>
> > West Plains
> > 1 - Luther
> > 2 - Iowa
> > 3 - Iowa State
> > 4 - Northern Iowa
>
> > 1. CUT
> > 2. Wisco
> > 3. Luther
> > 4. U of M
> > 5. Eau Claire
> > 6. Iowa
> > 7. UMD
> > 8. Iowa St.
> > 9. Marquette
> > 10. GOP
> > 11. Winona
> > 12. Stevens Point
> > 13. St. Olaf
> > 14. Wisco-B
> > 15. Beloit
> > 16.  Northern Iowa
>
> 1. GoP
> 2. GoP
> 3. GoP
> 4. GoP
>
> What are the other teams at regionals again?

Christ, kids these days are to f'ing lazy to even check score
reporter.

The other teams:

4. GoP
5. GoP
6. GoP
7. GoP
8. GoP
9. GoP
10. GoP
11. GoP
12. CUT
13. GoP
14. GoP
15. GoP
16. GoP

Look for the 12th seed to get upset early and often.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20265 is a reply to message #20178] Wed, 22 April 2009 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Geo
Messages: 12
Registered: January 2009
Junior Member
Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20270 is a reply to message #20265] Wed, 22 April 2009 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John.Misra
Messages: 38
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.

http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20272 is a reply to message #20270] Wed, 22 April 2009 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pautesch
Messages: 122
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Apr 22, 4:37 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
>
> http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916

I really like that format.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20298 is a reply to message #20272] Wed, 22 April 2009 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Becky
Messages: 39
Registered: September 2008
Member
Im just gonna throw it out there that when Iowa State beat Eau Claire
at high tide, they had alumni all region Michael Lun playing with
them...just saying.

GO SCORPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


On Apr 22, 4:58 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 4:37 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
>
> >http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916
>
> I really like that format.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20308 is a reply to message #20298] Wed, 22 April 2009 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timcorcoran15
Messages: 10
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 22, 8:39 pm, Becky <dbbeque...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Im just gonna throw it out there that when Iowa State beat Eau Claire
> at high tide, they had alumni all region Michael Lun playing with
> them...just saying.
>
> GO SCORPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> On Apr 22, 4:58 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 22, 4:37 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
>
> > >http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916
>
> > I really like that format.

How old is this Michael Lun? I don't remember any Iowa State players
being all-region. Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20310 is a reply to message #20308] Wed, 22 April 2009 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pautesch
Messages: 122
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Apr 22, 9:22 pm, timcorcora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 8:39 pm, Becky <dbbeque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Im just gonna throw it out there that when Iowa State beat Eau Claire
> > at high tide, they had alumni all region Michael Lun playing with
> > them...just saying.
>
> > GO SCORPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> > On Apr 22, 4:58 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 22, 4:37 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
>
> > > >http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916
>
> > > I really like that format.
>
> How old is this Michael Lun?  I don't remember any Iowa State players
> being all-region.  Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?

http://ultitraining.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/dominator-frida y-off-the-top-rope-and-dominator-merch-contest/

The guy pictured is Mikey Lun.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20317 is a reply to message #20308] Wed, 22 April 2009 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hanspetersoh
Messages: 5
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
It doesn't really matter because it will all play itself out, but I
think it's a bit silly that Iowa State and Marquette are above Duluth
(and maybe one or both of them should even be below GoP). Neither
team has a meaningful win on par with Duluth's over Minnesota, and the
Northwoods section has ALWAYS been the strongest (especially in depth
and regionals performances) in this region, and it only has 2 teams in
the top 8 while both of the other sections have 3. It seems like
every year someone hypes up some Iowa team that then gets knocked out
of regionals by some team that got 4th or 5th at sectionals. Debate
me if you want, but wait and see what happens. I'll bet the
Northwoods walks away with 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th at regionals.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20321 is a reply to message #20317] Wed, 22 April 2009 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RWW II
Messages: 6
Registered: January 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 22, 10:25 pm, Hans <hanspeter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It doesn't really matter because it will all play itself out, but I
> think it's a bit silly that Iowa State and Marquette are above Duluth
> (and maybe one or both of them should even be below GoP).  Neither
> team has a meaningful win on par with Duluth's over Minnesota, and the
> Northwoods section has ALWAYS been the strongest (especially in depth
> and regionals performances) in this region, and it only has 2 teams in
> the top 8 while both of the other sections have 3.  It seems like
> every year someone hypes up some Iowa team that then gets knocked out
> of regionals by some team that got 4th or 5th at sectionals.  Debate
> me if you want, but wait and see what happens.  I'll bet the
> Northwoods walks away with 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th at regionals.

Absolutely
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20405 is a reply to message #20321] Thu, 23 April 2009 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BMaster
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2008
Member
So where exactly is this tournament? Yeah I know Carleton College.
Is it on the intramural polo fields, or some sod farm? Are finals in
the beer games stadium?

Also Duluth sucks, but mostly just their alum.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20409 is a reply to message #20405] Thu, 23 April 2009 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kevin
Messages: 28
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
It is on 2 to 3 locations around campus. Mainly IM soccer/frisbee
fields, with at least the men's finals, and maybe more games, played
in the football stadium.

On Apr 23, 11:28 am, Marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So where exactly is this tournament?  Yeah I know Carleton College.
> Is it on the intramural polo fields, or some sod farm?  Are finals in
> the beer games stadium?
>
> Also Duluth sucks, but mostly just their alum.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20421 is a reply to message #20308] Thu, 23 April 2009 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kinsella
Messages: 19
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
> How old is this Michael Lun?

NOT AS OLD AS YOU, GRANDPA!

On Apr 22, 9:22 pm, timcorcora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 8:39 pm, Becky <dbbeque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Im just gonna throw it out there that when Iowa State beat Eau Claire
> > at high tide, they had alumni all region Michael Lun playing with
> > them...just saying.
>
> > GO SCORPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> > On Apr 22, 4:58 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 22, 4:37 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
>
> > > >http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916
>
> > > I really like that format.
>
> How old is this Michael Lun?  I don't remember any Iowa State players
> being all-region.  Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20469 is a reply to message #20308] Thu, 23 April 2009 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John.Misra
Messages: 38
Registered: September 2008
Member
> I don't remember any Iowa State players
> being all-region.  Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?

Perhaps you don't remember because he got all-region in a simpler
time, when candidates didn't solicit/beg for votes from acquaintances
on other teams.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20477 is a reply to message #20469] Thu, 23 April 2009 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PBJ
Messages: 10
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
On Apr 23, 3:18 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > I don't remember any Iowa State players
> > being all-region.  Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?
>
> Perhaps you don't remember because he got all-region in a simpler
> time, when candidates didn't solicit/beg for votes from acquaintances
> on other teams.

As some players on my team might say regarding Mikey Lun:
"he real good."
PBJ
Grinnell
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20482 is a reply to message #20477] Thu, 23 April 2009 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff B
Messages: 1
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 23, 4:04 pm, PBJ <Jesse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 3:18 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > I don't remember any Iowa State players
> > > being all-region.  Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?
>
> > Perhaps you don't remember because he got all-region in a simpler
> > time, when candidates didn't solicit/beg for votes from acquaintances
> > on other teams.
>
> As some players on my team might say regarding Mikey Lun:
> "he real good."
> PBJ
> Grinnell

Mikey Lun - All Region 2009?

Voters, let's make this happen.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20488 is a reply to message #20310] Thu, 23 April 2009 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Johnson
Messages: 174
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Apr 22, 9:46 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 9:22 pm, timcorcora...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 8:39 pm, Becky <dbbeque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Im just gonna throw it out there that when Iowa State beat Eau Claire
> > > at high tide, they had alumni all region Michael Lun playing with
> > > them...just saying.
>
> > > GO SCORPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> > > On Apr 22, 4:58 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 4:37 pm, "John.Mi...@gmail.com" <John.Mi...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, Geo <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Seedings and format are posted on the score reporter.
>
> > > > >http://upa.org/scores/tourn.cgi?div=23&id=5916
>
> > > > I really like that format.
>
> > How old is this Michael Lun? I don't remember any Iowa State players
> > being all-region. Have you been drinking too much Captain Becky?
>
> http://ultitraining.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/dominator-frida y-off-the...
>
> The guy pictured is Mikey Lun.

Does Mikey Lun not like Asians? or does he just like awkward tackles
that don't work?
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20490 is a reply to message #20488] Thu, 23 April 2009 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BMaster
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 23, 4:39 pm, Matt Johnson <BSSH...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does Mikey Lun not like Asians? or does he just like awkward tackles
> that don't work?
Sigh. Noob.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20494 is a reply to message #20490] Thu, 23 April 2009 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pautesch
Messages: 122
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
On Apr 23, 4:45 pm, Marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 4:39 pm, Matt Johnson <BSSH...@gmail.com> wrote:> Does Mikey Lun not like Asians? or does he just like awkward tackles
> > that don't work?
>
> Sigh.  Noob.

Agreed. Huge noob. Go play Kan Jam with your pussy gnarwaltz (sp?)
friends.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20496 is a reply to message #20494] Thu, 23 April 2009 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Becky
Messages: 39
Registered: September 2008
Member
<<Also Duluth sucks, but mostly just their alum.>>

you'll get your money marcus/jersey. You gonna be there this weekend
so I can bring some down with me?




On Apr 23, 5:08 pm, Paul Utesch <paute...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 4:45 pm, Marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 23, 4:39 pm, Matt Johnson <BSSH...@gmail.com> wrote:> Does Mikey Lun not like Asians? or does he just like awkward tackles
> > > that don't work?
>
> > Sigh.  Noob.
>
> Agreed.  Huge noob. Go play Kan Jam with your pussy gnarwaltz (sp?)
> friends.
Re: Central Regionals Teams [message #20528 is a reply to message #20421] Thu, 23 April 2009 19:28 Go to previous message
Jiffy
Messages: 27
Registered: April 2009
Junior Member
On Apr 23, 12:21 pm, Mikey K <mike.kinse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How old is this Michael Lun?
>
> NOT AS OLD AS YOU, GRANDPA!


Grandpa + Mikey Lun = NURSING HOME ULTIMATE! Stall counts take longer
between hits on the oxygen tank.

Sorry to drag you into this Mikey. These things happen when you
associate with bionic people...
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