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South All-Region [message #18933] Tue, 14 April 2009 23:43 Go to next message
BrookDaves
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The south has been slacking this whole spring with RSD crap. Doc
hasn't proclaimed he hated an college teams of players yet, just Mike
G. The regionals seeding is too complex and long for anyone not named
Allen to read, so maybe we can get some opinions on the All-Region and
FOTY.

My Fave 5:

Stephen Presley - lived up to his moniker. Congrats on the cover,
he's my callahan winner also. He has yet agains led a successful UT
program to a great season that most likely won't end in April.
http://spikingplastic.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2246

Jeff Loskorn - he is maybe the only deep threat left for UT after
losing a couple last year, he brings some amazing discs down.
http://spikingplastic.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2311

Kevin Richardson UNT - consensus all-region, back for his 5th year.
http://spikingplastic.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2231

Dan Emmons UNT - a mention in the UPA mag wasn't a mistake, I would
absolutely hate to play against this guy and see him going deep with
one of my teammates.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30460922&op=15& ;o=global&view=global&subj=23913317&id=153948009 5#/photo.php?pid=30460871&id=1539480095

Matt Jackson Ark - Guy is unstoppable and if anyone has ever watched
him play, he brings in the most impossible catches from every
position. Amazing speed and bids.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2010984&op=4&o =global&view=global&subj=686474008&id=554589528

Others capable of push:
Kevin Kelly KU
Hopwood Ark
Bankhead LSU
David Ryan UNT
Steven Darrow UT
Jason Best TxSt
Andrew Walch TxSt

FOTY:
Zach Riggins UNT - has replaced two All-Region caliber players (Matt
Randall and Jake Anderson) quite well on defense and in the deep
game. Never played ultimate until August, has the athleticism of a D1
soccer player. Has single-handedly won a couple games for North Texas
this year. Including this upwind break catch in 25-30 mph winds
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=30122415& ;op=1&o=global&view=global&subj=662037728&id =1521240032

Others:
Will UT - if it's true he is a fresh, I hope it is, he's a good
handler and a potential franchise doppel.
Evan Winograd WashU - watched this guy at the high school state
tourney last couple years and he tore it up, I believe he was also a
juniors alternate.

Brooks
UNT
Re: South All-Region [message #18942 is a reply to message #18933] Wed, 15 April 2009 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hbrumby
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> Others:
> Will  UT - if it's true he is a fresh, I hope it is, he's a good
> handler and a potential franchise doppel.

I assume you mean Will Campbell; he's a sophomore who played at UTSA
last year. Yeah, he can ball.

Also, 2 of the 3 facebook links (Jackson and Riggins) don't work, at
least not for me.
Re: South All-Region [message #18954 is a reply to message #18942] Wed, 15 April 2009 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Knappy
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"I would absolutely hate to....see him going deep with
one of my teammates."

I would hate to see that, too



On Apr 15, 5:28 am, H-train <hbru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Others:
> > Will  UT - if it's true he is a fresh, I hope it is, he's a good
> > handler and a potential franchise doppel.
>
> I assume you mean Will Campbell; he's a sophomore who played at UTSA
> last year. Yeah, he can ball.
>
> Also, 2 of the 3 facebook links (Jackson and Riggins) don't work, at
> least not for me.
Re: South All-Region [message #18962 is a reply to message #18954] Wed, 15 April 2009 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KK26
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Front Runners:

Steven Presley, Texas - Absolute lock. He's the cream of the crop in
the south region. His release points blow me away every time I watch
him play. Also makes sick bids and great decisions.

Kevin Richardson, UNT - With the loss D-Rich and Randal he has had to
take on more responsibility as a thrower. He's really turned into a
great all-around player.

Aaron Hopwood, Arkansas - In my opinion he is Arkansas best player. He
is also the class of the south. Great spirit and modesty despite
making ridiculous plays left and right, while being a primary thrower
for a team that is short on handles.

Jeff Loskorn, Texas - Another exceptional player who has the spirit to
back it up. He's a player you hate to guard because he handles and
goes deep and is equal talented at both.


Other Notable Players:

Chris Bankhead, LSU - Only got to see a little of him at Mardi Gras,
glad he could lead the LSU boys back to regionals.

Best, Rickner, and Walsh, Texas St - Unfortunately didn't get to see
these guys this year, but assuming they didn't get worse since last
year, they should be in consideration.

Caleb Staneck, Truman St - Cutter who plays bigger than he is. Added
to the abomination that was my sectionals by owning me on a couple of
occasions in our semis game.


Bias Alert:

Ryan Bigley, Kansas - Plays every position: O, D, Handler, Cutter, and
excels at each. One of our team leaders who has a knack for getting
huge and timely D's as well as being the spark plug for our offense.

Axl Brammer, Kansas - One of, if not the most dedicated ultimate
players in the entire country. Can play every point of every game and
has opened up his game to be the number deep threat and hucking threat
when he is on the field. Brings an intensity to the game that his
teammates feed of off.

Justin Kaminsky, Kansas - Super quick cutter/ handler. When this guy
is on, he is in a world of his own. He can simply take over a game as
he did against Wisconsin, Georgia, and NC to lead big wins.

Abe Jacobs and Gary Gareis - These two handlers who play O and D
respectively could easily play themselves onto the list.


FOTY: Vinny Ciaramatarro from KU has made a huge impact this year.
Starting as an O-set handler off the bat, he moved over to defense
when we realized he could make an even bigger impact with his sick D.
Evan "Junior Worlds" Winograd from Wash U is also in the mix. Not to
ruffle any feathers but I think he is probably Wash U's best all
around player. The UT freshman looked solid when we played them, and I
have not yet seen Zach Riggins, but I'll look for him at regionals.

-Kevin Kelly
KU #26
Re: South All-Region [message #18970 is a reply to message #18962] Wed, 15 April 2009 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jondorty17
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Andrew Walch owns all of you.

-jdo
txstate coach
Re: South All-Region [message #18978 is a reply to message #18970] Wed, 15 April 2009 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ncwohl31
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You all can leave Kansas players out of your All-Region predictions if
you want, we win because we thrive off depth of talent and team
chemistry. Our greatest players have very complete games all around
(offense, defense, throws, cuts, and are true leaders) and we also
have a strong core of role players. Our freshmen have been phenomenal
to say the least, any school would be very proud to have as talented
of a freshman class as we've received this year, they have totally
exceeded my initial expectations. Our main focus as a team is winning
Regionals. When that happens, we will leave it up to everyone that
votes about choosing which Zontals to add.
However, I must add, Kevin Kelly is the true leader and captain of
this team, on and off the field. His work ethic is outstanding, I cant
even begin to explain all the great things he has done with this team
and our program. Last year was a transition year for us, this year we
are more focused and more determined on doing whatever it takes to get
better, like putting in extra time at the gym after practice, watching
film, etc. It really would be a shame to leave such a great player,
and an even greater person, off your All-Region list when its all said
and done.
Re: South All-Region [message #19002 is a reply to message #18978] Wed, 15 April 2009 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carick15
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There are many great players in the region:

Stephen Presley, Jeff Loskorn, Soup, K. Rich, Peter Palacios, Brooks,
Matt Jackson, Axl, Bigley, Kevin, Evan and Neeto (sp?) from Wash U,
and Bankhead.

Andrew Walch and Jason Best are Texas State's best players.
I've never had a teammate throw as many beautiful 65+ yard shots than
Jason Best.
I've never seen a player do everything right as Andrew Walch does (the
guy makes huge plays in Sarasota at Club Nationals when he's not
playing college ball).

In the end, what matters most (or has the biggest impact on the
ballots) is regional wins. Understandably, the teams that place 1st,
2nd, and 3rd will have the most representatives on the All-Region
list. If you place lower than that, you're kind of shit out of luck.

Good Luck Teams!
It's my last rodeo and I know it'll be a good one,

-----Rickner
Texas State Ultimate


....and Zach Riggins-UNT has my automatic vote for FOTY. The new kid
at UT, Will, is a sophomore-transfer and not a baller (yet).
Re: South All-Region [message #19018 is a reply to message #19002] Wed, 15 April 2009 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sc
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> -----Rickner
> Texas State Ultimate
>
> ...and Zach Riggins-UNT has my automatic vote for FOTY.  The new kid
> at UT, Will, is a sophomore-transfer and not a baller (yet).

From a non-player perspective, predictably with a little bit of a UT
slant.

Disagree that Will is not a baller, other than that the word "baller"
needs to be retired (thanks, women's ultimate!). At Stanford, I was
talking to UBC after their loss to Texas. The player they said gave
them the most trouble was #2, not #22. I didn't remember at the time
that that was Will's number, but I do remember them struggling to
contain him. He's not a freshman, but he'll probably be an all-region
fixture starting next year.

The clear FOTY choice to me is Evan Winograd of Wash U. Having watched
UNT and Kansas this season, nobody jumped out at me as a game-changer
like Evan did. He's compact and athletic, with great speed and leaping
ability. Wash U already appears to depend heavily on him as a cutter
and defender.

All-region is tricky. Three consensus choices so far, Stevie, Jeff and
K-Rich, probably don't need further justification. I haven't been able
to see all the South region teams this year, particularly the Bama
section, so I won't claim this is comprehensive. But from the teams
that I've watched, these are the four additional players I'd pick to
give myself the best chance of winning versus any other seven guys in
the country.

Best: Maybe the most complete player in the region. Elite defender,
athletic cutter, pinpoint hucker. If I drew Texas State at regionals
my gameplan would be built around limiting him.

Walch: This is a tricky pick. I may be biased because I've seen him
play incredibly effective D against some of the best club players in
the country, including guys like AJ Tiarsmith, Ray Illian, and Jolian
Dahl. I haven't seen this in college, probably because there aren't
really players that good in college. Nevertheless, watching him sky
the bejeezus out of Tim Gehret for a Callahan against Sockeye tends to
leave an impression.

Bankhead: Absolute game-changer as an athlete. Really smart cutter
that opens the field for his teammates and demands honest defensive
play. Someone else that you gameplan for, he's limited by the overall
strength of his team. Reminds me of Rob White, formerly of Auburn, who
has become a true sparkplug for Chain Lightning. I'd love to see what
he could do on a good club team.

Hopwood: Since I generally refuse to aknowledge Arkansas as a state, I
made every effort to pretend that this kid was really just a
hallucination resulting from the evaporated grain alcohol that you end
up breathing when standing within a ten-foot radius of Karl Doege, but
I finally had to admit to myself that he's pretty damn good. He's got
some of Stevie's toolset, in that there doesn't appear to be a
reasonable way to shut him down defensively. His releases are quick
and accurate and he shows great field vision and decision-making with
his hucks.

Out of room. Too bad. There are some other great players. Dan Emmons
is probably the best pure athlete in the region, but I'm not sure he's
put all the pieces together. He will. I'm very impressed with Kevin
Kelly -- he has great body control and coordination for a big man. Axl
is a relentless hustle player, but he needs to improve his quickness
and change of direction to max out his ultimate abilities. Matt
Biershenk and Steven Darroh are the invisible engines of the Texas
offense and share an illegal telepathic link with Stevie. Greg of A&M
is a big, physical athlete with powerful hucks who will only get
better.
Re: South All-Region [message #19024 is a reply to message #18978] Wed, 15 April 2009 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jondorty17
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On Apr 15, 10:54 am, ncwoh...@gmail.com wrote:
> You all can leave Kansas players out of your All-Region predictions if
> you want, we win because we thrive off depth of talent and team
> chemistry. Our greatest players have very complete games all around
> (offense, defense, throws, cuts, and are true leaders) and we also
> have a strong core of role players. Our freshmen have been phenomenal
> to say the least, any school would be very proud to have as talented
> of a freshman class as we've received this year, they have totally
> exceeded my initial expectations. Our main focus as a team is winning
> Regionals. When that happens, we will leave it up to everyone that
> votes about choosing which Zontals to add.
> However, I must add, Kevin Kelly is the true leader and captain of
> this team, on and off the field. His work ethic is outstanding, I cant
> even begin to explain all the great things he has done with this team
> and our program. Last year was a transition year for us, this year we
> are more focused and more determined on doing whatever it takes to get
> better, like putting in extra time at the gym after practice, watching
> film, etc. It really would be a shame to leave such a great player,
> and an even greater person, off your All-Region list when its all said
> and done.

hahahahahahahahahahaha. Bring it noob.
Re: South All-Region [message #19026 is a reply to message #19002] Wed, 15 April 2009 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
clrydin
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I'd hate to make opinions about guys that I havent seen at least a
couple times in the past year or two, so these are the guys I know
deserve to be considered from the texas section...

Jason Best (tx-state)
Andrew Walch (tx-state)
K-Rich (north texas)
Presley (texas)
Jeff Loskorn (texas)

those guys have all been said already and I completely agree. my guys
that don't get enough credit...

we don't really have 'big name' guys at A&M, but if you've played us
in the past couple years, somebody probably got worked at some point
by these two guys.

#44 Greg Gerhart
http://www.photoworks.com/util/slideShowLarge2.jsp ;jsessionid=A6BED050BF6C4856937363DCEE39410E?stackID=5545614 7&cb=PW&guest=true&toh=&svr=web18&bigIma ges=true
Unfortunately he won't be at regionals and that will probably take
away any chance of getting votes.

#8 Jeremy Mickle
http://www.photoworks.com/util/slideShowLarge2.jsp ;jsessionid=A6BED050BF6C4856937363DCEE39410E?stackID=5545614 7&cb=PW&guest=true&toh=&svr=web18&bigIma ges=true

I don't know if those links will work, but its worth a shot.

-Casey
Dozen Ultimate
Re: South All-Region [message #19028 is a reply to message #19026] Wed, 15 April 2009 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
clrydin
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those links take you to the full album slide show, but you can find
them by number, or Greg has the first few pictures with the buzzed
hair, and jeremy is wearing the red hat.
Re: South All-Region [message #19043 is a reply to message #19026] Wed, 15 April 2009 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rcheskin
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Contra has not played Texas or UNT this year so I am going by the
"glimpses" I have seen of them at Stanford and Centex.

Stephen Presley (UT) - Count it. He is at the top of everyone's all-
region list and is expected to lead UT to another Natties birth.

K-Rich (UNT) - Watched him closely against NC State. Still terrific
in the air as always, and has had to play closer to the disc with the
loss of D-Rich. He has added another dimension to his game with hucks
and handling ability.

Kevin Kelly (Kansas) - The best all-around player for Kansas, he has
given us problems all season long with his versatility on the field.
He can throw the deep bomb to Jack, Axl, or Bigley, and can use his
vertical and lanky long arms to pluck discs out of the sky.

Best (Tx St) - Is the biggest reason for the Buckets comeback against
us at Centex. His accurate hucks and bail-out cuts kept the Tex State
offense flowing. He was also by far the best defender on the field.

And now to my boys:

Jeremy Diepenbrock - aka "Jeremy," is arguably the region's best in-
cutter and provides the motor for our offense. With unbelievable
speed, stamina, and smarts, he gets open on 99% of his cuts no matter
how good his defender is. As a senior he has become a more complete
player by learning how to lay-out and by drastically improving his
throwing and field vision. Spirited on the field and one of the
nicest guys you will ever meet off of it, look for Jeremy to be
deciding the fate of the world with his "secret job" next year.

Doug Richardson- aka "Duggles," has a natural knack for the
spectacular. He is a natural athlete and is guaranteed to make plenty
of great O/D bids every time he steps onto the field. As only a
sophomore he still does not have the complete package, but look for
him to step up huge in Little Rock.

Evan Winograd (Wine-oh-grad) - aka "Junior Worlds" is our best all-
around player and the region's clear FOTY. With all due respect to
Vinny from KU, no other freshman in the region has had a bigger impact
on their team than #19. Off the field, Evan's passion for the game
has inspired our team to step up our work ethic and improve our mental
toughness. On the field, Evan began as a D-line cutter, moved to O-
line cutter, dabbled in the handle position, and now
plays...well...everything. If you still doubt the impact of his
impact, check out #19's domination of Arizona at Centex:

http://ultivillage.com/index.php/COTD-2008/open-centex-washi ngton-u-vs-arizona

Of course these are all simply nominations. with the real pudding
being the performances in Arkansas.

-Robin
WashU #36
Re: South All-Region [message #19045 is a reply to message #19043] Wed, 15 April 2009 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ncwohl31
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"Evan Winograd (Wine-oh-grad) - aka "Junior Worlds" is our best all-
around player and the region's clear FOTY. With all due respect to
Vinny from KU, no other freshman in the region has had a bigger impact
on their team than #19."

With all do respect, how much of an impact could he of really had???
Wash U only won 5 games before Sectionals (according to UPA Score-
Reporter).
Re: South All-Region [message #19058 is a reply to message #19045] Wed, 15 April 2009 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KK26
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On Apr 15, 5:23 pm, ncwoh...@gmail.com wrote:
> "Evan Winograd (Wine-oh-grad) - aka "Junior Worlds" is our best all-
> around player and the region's clear FOTY.  With all due respect to
> Vinny from KU, no other freshman in the region has had a bigger impact
> on their team than #19."
>
> With all do respect, how much of an impact could he of really had???
> Wash U only won 5 games before Sectionals (according to UPA Score-
> Reporter).

Before this turns into an asinine argument I am going to say that both
players have played exceptional seasons. Evan clearly carries a larger
role on his team than Vinny, and has a bigger individual impact
because of this. I think we can all agree on that. Lets leave this
argument at that.
Re: South All-Region [message #19063 is a reply to message #19058] Wed, 15 April 2009 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alex DW
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Good peacemaking KK. We all know how ugly these South Region threads
can get. Could someone please translate the Texas players names into
nicknames? With the exception of Presley, I only know those players
by the food item or inanimate object they answer to on the field.

-DW
Re: South All-Region [message #19070 is a reply to message #19045] Wed, 15 April 2009 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ghughesstrange
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Those were five BIG wins.
Re: South All-Region [message #19078 is a reply to message #19070] Wed, 15 April 2009 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
caseyboy24
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All Region
1. Stepehen Presley (texas)
2. K-Rich (UNT)
3. Kevin Kelly (Kansas)
4. Jason Best (Tx. State)
5. Andrew Walch (Tx. State)
6. Bankhead (LSU)
7. Aaron Hopwood (Arkansas)

Reasoning.
1. can't deny someone that you can't stop.

2. once again how you gonna not put someone on all region that can't
be stopped. Still leaving out great players like Dan Emmons, Brooks,
Doc, Mouse, etc... only a 7 player line, sorry BooNT

3. athletic on the field but more important that that he's
motivational off... I was told by someone of his teammates that he
hypes practice like no other and has Kansas all buying into their
style of offense and defense... he's apparently been a huge influence
on Zontal ultimate this year and hopefully will continue his dominance
in Little Rock. The only unfortunate thing about picking KK is that
you're leaving so many of their huge players unaccounted for... Bigley
(one of the best two way players in the region) Jack, Axl, Abe, etc.

4. quick, good fakes, better throws, almost impossible to stop around
the disc. Best creates plays and delivers great throws... it would be
hard to make a case to not have him on All-Region

5. Walch is a great fundamental player, it's got to be nice being on
TX st. knowing that you've got a player that you can consistently
expect great plays from. Game in and game out he's on his game... I
don't recommend guarding him. Once again it stinks to leave out such
great players like Rickner (who in my opinion has some of the best
throws in the region) and Blake (who will most likely guard your best
player and completely shut him down, while wearing him out on the
other end of the field)

6. If you've watched Bank turn it on in a game then I don't even have
to explain to you why he's on this list. If you haven't then you need
to watch a LSU game at regionals. Killer cuts with great throws... if
that's not enough to put him on your regionals list then he'll
probably I love your girlfriend at the regionals party... and believe
me, he's better looking than you. Also he gave me his bed at Mardi
Gras so he's got my vote!!

7. If you've watched any of an arkansas's game then you def. know who
number 21 is... Hopwood not only has athletic qualities that should
put him on this list but he helps lead our team (very well I might
add) and doesn't ever take a game off. He's always cutting hard and
skying people twice his height. If you do happen to watch some
Arkansas at Regionals then be sure and watch a few other players...
Matt Jackson # 1 , Jones Clemons # 3 , and Jacob Perry # 6 ... all do
a great job displaying Arkansas athletic abilities and skills.

Have a good day and good luck to everyone at Regionals... sorry if I
left you off my lists, this is such a good Region it's hard to
remember everyone.
Casey boy
Arkansas
Re: South All-Region [message #19079 is a reply to message #19063] Wed, 15 April 2009 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rhb
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On Apr 15, 7:23 pm, Alex DW <kadrl...@gmail.com> wrote:


Jeff loskhorn is DJ. Will Cambell I'm guessing is Soup the Second.

There are many fine players that have been mentioned.

What about team match-ups? Here are some match-ups that i think will
be some of the best games to play-in and watch:

Truman St. v. A&M - Both teams are more athletic than you want to give
credit for. And, I'm guessing both teams are heavy with seniors this
year trying to make a deep run at Regionals.

Ole Miss v. anyone - Last year they were the oddest team to play
against, very funny to watch.

UNT v. Arkansas - While Arkansas tries to beat you with hucks off of
one or two under cuts; UNT, I've seen utilizing the vert. stack very
well (@ Mardi Gras). Both teams have athletic players: Arkansas is a
faster team if they can stay sober I see them winning it. If UNT
plays solid man D(read: contain Hopwood; he can't be denied) while
pressuring Caseyboy and their Tall handler with the huge pivot into
bad throws and transition quickly in to fast break O they'll take them
down.

Kansas v. Texas/Wash U - Rematches are Fun ;) (and I hate emoticons).


I know this is all speculation but these are just some of the games I
would want to watch in Little Rock. Gonna be BIG FUN.

BTW, If Kevin Kelly is not in your top seven yet, add him now. The
only way I can explain it to you is like this: He is the only player
in the COUNTRY that comes near Franchise in the Callahan race. I
could go on about both of them with my mundane writing skills but I'll
save them for papers on eutrophication and quinoa.
Re: South All-Region [message #19084 is a reply to message #19079] Wed, 15 April 2009 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dick Formerly Kno
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> Truman St. v. A&M - Both teams are more athletic than you want to give
> credit for. And, I'm guessing both teams are heavy with seniors this
> year trying to make a deep run at Regionals.

Can't speak for A&M, but Truman only has one player (two-year captain
and all-around stud Ben "Shaggy" Gibson) graduating. All our other
seniors (all 2 of them) will be back for a fifth year.

Kevin Kelly= Great player, even better leader, and an even-better-than-
that person. Which is saying a lot.

Though I would say that Bigley was one of the main reasons KU made
such a great second half run on us in the semis. That and the lack of
wind. Back on topic, Bigley definitely deserves a nod.

Dennis
Truman
Re: South All-Region [message #19089 is a reply to message #19084] Wed, 15 April 2009 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ncwohl31
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> With all do respect, how much of an impact could he of really had???
> Wash U only won 5 games before Sectionals (according to UPA Score-
> Reporter).

P.S. I certainly did not mean to make a "jab" against Wash U or Evan
for that matter and I apologize if it came across that way. He's a
great player and embraces spirit of the game and will have an amazing
impact on the future of his team. However, I view the award of FOTY
like the Callahan or a ROY or MVP award in pro sports in the regards
that team wins heavily factor into the equation, for example Derrick
Rose is going to be ROY in the NBA because his performance this season
has translated into wins, while OJ Mayo's, Kevin Love's, & Eric
Gordon's teams have not had winning seasons, even though they are
great players in their own right. Just my personal feelings on the
topic, that is all.
Re: South All-Region [message #19090 is a reply to message #19084] Wed, 15 April 2009 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sct6686
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"Others capable of push:
Kevin Kelly KU
Hopwood Ark
Bankhead LSU
David Ryan UNT
Steven Darrow UT
Jason Best TxSt
Andrew Walch TxSt"

--------------------------------------------

The question we should all be asking ourselves right now is: was that
really Steven Darroh on the Man vs. Food episode from Austin? This
has been a point of argument amongst my team for at least a month
now. If anyone could settle this for me I'll give you a ZJ in Little
Rock.


"Ole Miss v. anyone - Last year they were the oddest team to play
against, very funny to watch. "


Go on.......
Re: South All-Region [message #19092 is a reply to message #19078] Wed, 15 April 2009 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
caseyboy24
Messages: 23
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
On Apr 15, 9:20 pm, Casey Boy <caseybo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All Region
> 1. Stepehen Presley (texas)
> 2. K-Rich (UNT)
> 3. Kevin Kelly (Kansas)
> 4. Jason Best (Tx. State)
> 5. Andrew Walch (Tx. State)
> 6. Bankhead (LSU)
> 7. Aaron Hopwood (Arkansas)
>
> Reasoning.
> 1. can't deny someone that you can't stop.
>
> 2. once again how you gonna not put someone on all region that can't
> be stopped. Still leaving out great players like Dan Emmons, Brooks,
> Doc, Mouse, etc... only a 7 player line, sorry BooNT
>
> 3. athletic on the field but more important that that he's
> motivational off... I was told by someone of his teammates that he
> hypes practice like no other and has Kansas all buying into their
> style of offense and defense... he's apparently been a huge influence
> on Zontal ultimate this year and hopefully will continue his dominance
> in Little Rock.  The only unfortunate thing about picking KK is that
> you're leaving so many of their huge players unaccounted for... Bigley
> (one of the best two way players in the region) Jack, Axl, Abe, etc.
>
> 4.  quick, good fakes, better throws, almost impossible to stop around
> the disc.  Best creates plays and delivers great throws... it would be
> hard to make a case to not have him on All-Region
>
> 5.  Walch is a great fundamental player, it's got to be nice being on
> TX st. knowing that you've got a player that you can consistently
> expect great plays from.  Game in and game out he's on his game... I
> don't recommend guarding him. Once again it stinks to leave out such
> great players like Rickner (who in my opinion has some of the best
> throws in the region) and Blake (who will most likely guard your best
> player and completely shut him down, while wearing him out on the
> other end of the field)
>
> 6.  If you've watched Bank turn it on in a game then I don't even have
> to explain to you why he's on this list. If you haven't then you need
> to watch a LSU game at regionals.  Killer cuts with great throws... if
> that's not enough to put him on your regionals list then he'll
> probably I love your girlfriend at the regionals party... and believe
> me, he's better looking than you.  Also he gave me his bed at Mardi
> Gras so he's got my vote!!
>
> 7. If you've watched any of an arkansas's game then you def. know who
> number 21 is... Hopwood not only has athletic qualities that should
> put him on this list but he helps lead our team (very well I might
> add) and doesn't ever take a game off.  He's always cutting hard and
> skying people twice his height.  If you do happen to watch some
> Arkansas at Regionals then be sure and watch a few other players...
> Matt Jackson # 1 , Jones Clemons # 3 , and Jacob Perry # 6 ... all do
> a great job displaying Arkansas athletic abilities and skills.
>
> Have a good day and good luck to everyone at Regionals... sorry if I
> left you off my lists, this is such a good Region it's hard to
> remember everyone.
> Casey boy
> Arkansas

Alright i've read over this and among the many spelling and grammar
mistakes I want to rectify something.

Perhaps being biased because I play him more often...
I would switch Walch for Ryan Bigley from Kansas... like i said before
I get to watch Bigley play more than Walch and I know that Walch is a
great player or else he wouldn't be on DW but Bigley is a do it all
player for Kansas... From stellar man D to any position in the zone to
reliable handler to quick cutter and big skies... it's nearly
impossible to stop Bigley (unless your name is Casey boy.) He's a
game changer for sure, after the game it's pretty fun to get drunk
with him as well.
Re: South All-Region [message #19097 is a reply to message #19070] Wed, 15 April 2009 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rcheskin
Messages: 19
Registered: December 2008
Junior Member
On Apr 15, 8:32 pm, ghughesstra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Those were five BIG wins.

Wait a minute, stop EVERYTHING...did former Captain/Sectional champ/
All-Region player Gorgeous George just post!? This can only mean one
thing; George is coming back, but just for the remaining college
series.

KK, without asinine arguments about hairstyles, girlfriends, spitting,
or the "impact" of a player, how is this thread going to eclipse 100
messages like last year?
Re: South All-Region [message #19110 is a reply to message #19090] Wed, 15 April 2009 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rhb
Messages: 35
Registered: October 2008
Member
>
> "Ole Miss v. anyone - Last year they were the oddest team to play
> against, very funny to watch. "
>
> Go on.......

On second thought it was definitely Auburn.

Casey boy is the shell of Karl Doege that will still make All-Region.

Another match-up:
Harding v. A bama team other than LSU.
Re: South All-Region [message #19364 is a reply to message #19097] Fri, 17 April 2009 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zontals-new
Messages: 17
Registered: December 2008
Junior Member
> KK, without asinine arguments about hairstyles, girlfriends,
spitting,
> or the "impact" of a player, how is this thread going to eclipse 100
> messages like last year?

All its gonna take is 70 or so more posts about how this thread should
reach 100 messages.
Re: South All-Region [message #19417 is a reply to message #19364] Fri, 17 April 2009 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robbie Reynolds
Messages: 24
Registered: November 2008
Junior Member
On Apr 17, 11:37 am, zontals-new <horrorzont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > KK, without asinine arguments about hairstyles, girlfriends,
> spitting,
>
> > or the "impact" of a player, how is this thread going to eclipse 100
> > messages like last year?
>
> All its gonna take is 70 or so more posts about how this thread should
> reach 100 messages.

This thread really should reach 100 messages. 1 down 69 to go.

Suck It
O-x<
Re: South All-Region [message #19491 is a reply to message #19097] Fri, 17 April 2009 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zontals-new
Messages: 17
Registered: December 2008
Junior Member
> KK, without asinine arguments about hairstyles, girlfriends,
spitting,
> or the "impact" of a player, how is this thread going to eclipse 100
> messages like last year?

All its gonna take is 70 or so more posts about how this thread should
reach 100 messages.
Re: South All-Region [message #19538 is a reply to message #19364] Fri, 17 April 2009 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robbie Reynolds
Messages: 24
Registered: November 2008
Junior Member
On Apr 17, 11:37 am, zontals-new <horrorzont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > KK, without asinine arguments about hairstyles, girlfriends,
> spitting,
>
> > or the "impact" of a player, how is this thread going to eclipse 100
> > messages like last year?
>
> All its gonna take is 70 or so more posts about how this thread should
> reach 100 messages.

This thread really should reach 100 messages. 1 down 69 to go.

Suck It
O-x<
Re: South All-Region [message #19541 is a reply to message #19417] Fri, 17 April 2009 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caleb
Messages: 52
Registered: September 2008
Member
South All Region Coach-

Stu Jack
Joseph Huegerich?

....
I might even bite it
Re: South All-Region [message #19542 is a reply to message #19541] Fri, 17 April 2009 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ncwohl31
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Speaking of, why don't they do all-region for a coach??? Stu Jack is
indeed worthy of that recognition

(p.s. this could lead to about 20 more posts so start up that debate)
Re: South All-Region [message #19549 is a reply to message #19542] Fri, 17 April 2009 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
caseyboy24
Messages: 23
Registered: September 2008
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On Apr 17, 8:40 pm, ncwoh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Speaking of, why don't they do all-region for a coach??? Stu Jack is
> indeed worthy of that recognition
>
> (p.s. this could lead to about 20 more posts so start up that debate)

Stu definitely has my vote for coach of the year... Taking team beer
to keep the competition awake and drunk all night in the hotel
hallway. Genius!! Talk about team sacrafice.
Re: South All-Region [message #20124 is a reply to message #19549] Tue, 21 April 2009 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
calebcauthon
Messages: 3
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
Ah, found it, south all region. my top 7:

Kilmer KU Kilmer Dragon (Kansas) -
He has been ineligible for 2 years, but being ineligible for a south
regional award has never stopped him from winning it before (see:
kilmer wins 2004 south FOTY as a sophomore http://www.upa.org/college/all-region/2004)
Kevin Kelly (Kansas) - haven't seen him play in this year's college
season, but if last year was any indication, he still remains taller
than most of the opposing players and therefore can reach OVER AND
ABOVE them in all aspects of the game -- spirit, leadership,
sportsmanship, and general courtesy notwithstanding.
Stephen Presslie (Texas(?)) - I guarded Tank once, he didn't score,
but he did throw the score.
Christopher Bankhead

Honorable Mention:
Gary From Kansas - an incredibly nice fella. great smile


Well, see you guys at regionals!

Caleb #8
Prairie Fire Ultimate (Kansas City)
Re: South All-Region [message #20185 is a reply to message #20124] Wed, 22 April 2009 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shabadoo
Messages: 15
Registered: October 2008
Junior Member
If you can really be considered a coach while going to about half of
the practices and tournaments, then yes, I will take my rightful place
among the South all-region coaching team.

As far as the real all-region team goes, Caleb Stanek from Truman
should be getting a lot more recognition than he has so far. He
consistently gives himself the toughest matchup on the field in both
practice and tournaments and is always near the top of both assists
and scores for Truman. Has to be one the best players under 6' tall
in the air. Shaggy - Real name unknown(unless you look at his license
plate) also deserves strong consideration. Quite possibly the best
hands in the region, tons of layout D's, and great spirit except for
when he cusses himself out.

I could write on for pages about these guys, but if you've seen Truman
play this year then you already know about them. I don't believe
they've played a team from the Texas or 'Bama sections yet, and it
would be a shame if they didn't get votes because people haven't seen
them play, so keep an eye on them in Little Rock. Truman would not be
where they are without these guys' leadership and playing ability.
They certainly aren't relying on my coaching to get them through
Regionals.

On the watch list for Truman next year is Caleb(again), Kevin
(sophomore phenom), Dennis(wiley lefty), Brewer(tall, somewhat goofy),
Dave(crazy pivot), and my favorite Filipino handlers, Bryan(upwind
hammers) and Phil(I don't really know what he does, but he's good at
it).

I'm also proposing an all-region coaches vs. all-region players
scrimmage. Franchise has nothing on Stu's vet savvy. J-Do + Me
wearing J-Do's old jersey will confuse K-Rich into submission. Like
I'm even worried about any sort of KK/Bigley combination. Bring it you
whipper-snappers, I'll have my cleats in Little Rock.

-Joey #42
Ex-Zontal/Part-time Truman coach
Re: South All-Region [message #21078 is a reply to message #20185] Sun, 26 April 2009 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LukeD
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For those of us who didn't get to make the trip to Little Rock, any
additional All-Region thoughts after the weekend?
Re: South All-Region [message #21141 is a reply to message #21078] Mon, 27 April 2009 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
caseyboy24
Messages: 23
Registered: September 2008
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On Apr 27, 1:31 am, LukeD <lukedock...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those of us who didn't get to make the trip to Little Rock, any
> additional All-Region thoughts after the weekend?

It depends do you get to make all region for being a dick hole, cause
if so I should be number one on your ballots.

Congrats Texas and Kansas (and sorry to you guys as well, for being a
dick... especially you Axl)

I hope you both play well at nationals, I wanna see a strength bid
next year (F the AC in A and B your L all over their girls T's)
Re: South All-Region [message #21236 is a reply to message #18933] Mon, 27 April 2009 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dick Formerly Kno
Messages: 189
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
Just some unbiased Sunday watching (but still my opinion)...

Consensus all-region- Stevie and KK from TUFF and Zontals
respectively. Obvious leaders on and off the field, playmakers to
whom their teams constantly turn when in need. Can't see how they
won't make it.

DJ from Texas impressed me. Very patient lefty handle with great
breaks. On several points, he and Franchise could've been the only 2
people on the field for TUFF and they still would've scored against
KU. That and in my memory he was the only person who more than once
was able to D...

Jack from KU. Between the finals and backdoor game, I'm guessing he
had 12 scores. Most of them deep cuts resulting in clear separation
and/or skies. That and he threw the winning score twice. Once from
inside the endzone, then after some arguing and a spot-on observer
call, once from outside of it. Gotta be a good player to do that.

Hopwood/Jackson from Arkansas. Both these guys are do-it-all studs.
From what I saw in their 2 games, these 2 guys touched the disc 75% of
the time. In the Texas State game, I remember Jackson throwing a full-
field upwind huck for the the score, then a huge sky that made people
watching the final go nuts. Both obviously also great defenders.

Rickner/Best from Texas St. Worked well and very patient to get Texas
St. as far as they went. 2 very spirited guys as well.

To North Texas and Wash U, I apologize. I really didn't get to watch
you guys play, but i have some comments from Saturday. When we played
UNT Saturday, Brooks and Emmons ran the show. When Emmons wasn't
skying our guys for the score, he usually was the mid who threw it.
Wash U captain Mike "Magneto" worked really hard against LSU to get
them to Sunday play.

Bankhead from LSU= As good as advertised. Typically acted in hucking
to schulz, but also can go deep, and has mad ups for his height.

Caleb Stanek & Ben Gibson from Truman- Ok, I'm biased here. But to be
fair, these guys are the reason Truman had such a successful season.
Going from 14th last year to tied for 7th this year with come from
behind wins on LSU and Texas A&M is a testament to how they've helped
us improve.

Karl Doege- He's still eligible right? 5 year all-region?

FOTY- Vinny from KU was handling against both Texas and Texas St.
Marking up against their best players multiple points.

Zach from UNT was on Matt Jackson every point I looked over in the UNT-
Arkansas game. Not only is that confidence in a freshman, it would be
cool if this year's FOTY marked last year's FOTY.

Evan from Wash U worked very hard Saturday, resulting in several
injuries and cramps throughout the weekend, particularly to his
ankle. While I have no doubt in my mind he's a stud, I only saw him
play 1 point, because the rest of the time he was sidelined.

Apologies to anyone I neglected to comment on. That's all I can
remember.

Dennis
Truman #11
Re: South All-Region [message #21254 is a reply to message #21236] Mon, 27 April 2009 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robbie Reynolds
Messages: 24
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Junior Member
One guy who I haven't seen mentioned is Abe Jacobs (#12) handle from
Kansas. With countless perfect hucks for scores, great marks, and a
great attitude, he was essential to the Zontal's success this
weekend. I believe he should be mentioned when discussing South All-
Region candidates.

Suck It
O-x<
Re: South All-Region [message #21264 is a reply to message #21254] Mon, 27 April 2009 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jack
Messages: 46
Registered: September 2008
Member
On Apr 27, 1:53 pm, Robbie Reynolds <robro...@ku.edu> wrote:
> One guy who I haven't seen mentioned is Abe Jacobs (#12) handle from
> Kansas.  With countless perfect hucks for scores, great marks, and a
> great attitude, he was essential to the Zontal's success this
> weekend.  I believe he should be mentioned when discussing South All-
> Region candidates.
>
> Suck It
> O-x<

I'll second the nod for Abroham Jacobs. He accounts for about 90% of
our hucks out of the handles, and they were on point all weekend. I
thank you for mentioning me, Dennis, but really, it was my throwers
that made me look so good (but don't let that stop you from voting for
me!) Abe was a threat to put it from any spot on the field, to
anyone, from any cut, and he always delivered. He was a rock for our
handle set, and I love the little Jew. Please don't let him get
overlooked just because he doesn't meet the "6'3" or greater" height
requirement for Zontal hype.

Jack
#7 Zontals
Re: South All-Region [message #21270 is a reply to message #21264] Mon, 27 April 2009 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jason Weddle
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UNT's Glenn Morello for South All-Region!
Re: South All-Region [message #21271 is a reply to message #21254] Mon, 27 April 2009 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
rhb
Messages: 35
Registered: October 2008
Member
> O-x<

I agree completely with both Dennis and Robbie's post. I want to
mention some one that I'm sure would go unnoticed if I didn't mention
him.
Let it be known: #24 on Harding skyed Dan Emmons and two other
players while the game was on the line in the first round. On the
next point he had a huge goalline Sky D. Please: someone identify
this dude. He obviously thrives in clutch situations. #24, KU has
an excellent ecumenical ministry right near campus, if you ever decide
to transfer just kidding... but seriously, I'd love to see you play on
a high caliber program.
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