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2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17696] Sun, 05 April 2009 09:30 Go to next message
nicholas.kohn
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In one semifinal game: Texas 15 - Texas A&M 14
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17707 is a reply to message #17696] Sun, 05 April 2009 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lemmonderf
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North Texas 15 - Texas State 10
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17722 is a reply to message #17707] Sun, 05 April 2009 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hbrumby
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On Apr 5, 11:11 am, lemmond...@msn.com wrote:
> North Texas 15 - Texas State 10

Any updates on the rest of the bracket (in particular Cloud 9 from
Rice)? The only scores up on the score reporter are those already
mentioned.
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17736 is a reply to message #17722] Sun, 05 April 2009 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lemmonderf
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Texas 15 - North Texas 12

Congratulations to TUFF for taking sectionals! Franchise for
Callahan!

-Fred
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17750 is a reply to message #17722] Sun, 05 April 2009 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
clrydin
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1) Texas
2) north Texas
3) Texas state
4) Texas a&m
5) rice
6) Houston
7) ut Arlington

Miserably windy, one upwind score won a lot of games today.
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17759 is a reply to message #17750] Sun, 05 April 2009 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Naji
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were there 6 or 7 bids allocated towards the Texas section this year?
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17760 is a reply to message #17759] Sun, 05 April 2009 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aclement
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On Apr 5, 9:38 pm, Naji <naji.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> were there 6 or 7 bids allocated towards the Texas section this year?

7 bids. The results (if not the scores) have been updated on the
score reporter.
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17783 is a reply to message #17736] Sun, 05 April 2009 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sc
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On Apr 5, 5:35 pm, lemmond...@msn.com wrote:
> Texas 15 - North Texas 12
>
> Congratulations to TUFF for taking sectionals! Franchise for
> Callahan!
>
> -Fred

Observations from this game:

The wind was strong enough that neither team was pulling farther than
40 yards. The short pulls meant quick downwind scores for much of the
game. Both teams took very similar approaches to downwind offense,
hucking early and often in preference to the risk of a short turnover.
Early on, UNT sold out on defending the deep shot, and Texas used long
under cuts to score easily. UNT adjusted in the second half with
tighter defense, forcing more hucks from Texas. Texas tried to stop
the punt by setting up a flat cup, but UNT (I think David Brooks)
generally just fired it toward the endzone anyway, more or less
indiscriminately. This was pretty successful in the second half, as
Texas' deep defenders were making poor reads and UNT's athletic
receivers were pulling discs down.

The real story of the game was the upwind battle, and here the teams
took different approaches. Texas relied on a hard fronting man
defense, while UNT used a trap zone exclusively. UNT's offensive game
plan was to isolate Kevin Richardson and let him launch a big
backhand, hoping for a jump-ball catch from super-athletic Dan Emmons.
Jeff Loskorn had the tough task of defending Emmons, at about four
inches shorter. He was probably the hero of the game for Texas, ending
several of UNT's most promising upwind drives with clutch defense in
the air. In the second half, Richardson started gunning big inside-out
flicks to cutters coming under on the break side, an effective
adjustment until Texas went to an almost straight-up mark. Richardson
is known for his receiving abilities, but has become an extremely
dangerous thrower, with great length on his pivots and powerful hucks.
Dave Ryan also fired some upwind rockets that gave UNT a chance to
score.

Texas had a little bit more consistent progress against the UNT zone.
They seriously threatened on about five upwind drives throughout the
game until they finally converted at 12-11. Stephen Presley was
outstanding, throwing improbable cup breaks for big gains. Playing
against a zone seems to take his throws to another level, and several
of his laser backhands and hammers got audible reactions from the
crowd. Steven Darroh and Judson Moore provided consistent zone
handling and some timely cup breaks. Texas struggled with consistency
after getting the disc upfield, often killing a fast-break situation
with unforced errors. They were at their best when they used the
middle space of the field, since UNT camped Emmons deep and he cleaned
up every floating disc.

Overall, the game was suprisingly fun to watch despite the wind and
generally high number of turnovers. The level of play was intense and
there were big plays on both sides. From a calling perspective, the
game was very clean, with a low number of calls and an even lower
number of disputes. The teams clearly have a lot of respect for each
other.This would be a great rematch to see at regionals, athough I'd
prefer to see it without such an overwhelming upwind/downwind
component.
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17808 is a reply to message #17783] Mon, 06 April 2009 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith.Larsen.TX
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nice writeup, thank you pron

-Keith
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17815 is a reply to message #17759] Mon, 06 April 2009 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jacob.jkp05
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On Apr 5, 9:47 pm, Clrydin34 <clry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:38 pm, Naji <naji.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > were there 6 or 7 bids allocated towards the Texas section this year?
>
> 7

What effect on the number of bids per section to regionals does Texas
Tech's forfeit in the 9th place bracket against Baylor have? Would
Bama receive 4 bids now and Texas 6?
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17822 is a reply to message #17815] Mon, 06 April 2009 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
McB
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On Apr 6, 11:45 am, jacob.jk...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:47 pm, Clrydin34 <clry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 5, 9:38 pm, Naji <naji.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > were there 6 or 7 bids allocated towards the Texas section this year?
>
> > 7
>
> What effect on the number of bids per section to regionals does Texas
> Tech's forfeit in the 9th place bracket against Baylor have?  Would
> Bama receive 4 bids now and Texas 6?

If that happens, there's going to be a debacle similar to the '07
Arkansas nonsense.
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17827 is a reply to message #17815] Mon, 06 April 2009 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aclement
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On Apr 6, 10:45 am, jacob.jk...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:47 pm, Clrydin34 <clry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 5, 9:38 pm, Naji <naji.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > were there 6 or 7 bids allocated towards the Texas section this year?
>
> > 7
>
> What effect on the number of bids per section to regionals does Texas
> Tech's forfeit in the 9th place bracket against Baylor have?  Would
> Bama receive 4 bids now and Texas 6?

My understanding is that there is no effect since the 9th place
bracket in the 7 team advance format is consolation games designed to
give teams that have already been disqualified from advancing the
chance to play additional games on Sunday. Those games could have
been removed from the schedule without impacting the integrity of the
competition/format.

allen
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17832 is a reply to message #17827] Mon, 06 April 2009 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dick Formerly Kno
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Allen is completely right. Word from the national coordinator:

"If Texas Tech started the tournament as an eligible team, then even
if they forfeit later they STILL COUNT toward the bid allocation. The
forfeit only means that THEY cannot qualify for Regionals ... it
doesn't impact the section in terms of number of teams. Again, they
just need to begin the tournament as a legit team. Hope that helps."

So the only way a DQ happens is if they never showed up, or if they
played the entire event with ineligible players.
Considering this didn't happen, Texas still has 7 bids (Texas-
Arlington breathes a sigh of relief) and Bama has 3.

Sorry guys, no 2007 17-team fiasco.

Dennis
South Open RC
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17923 is a reply to message #17783] Tue, 07 April 2009 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cougarultimate
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On Apr 5, 11:39 pm, Pron <dp.te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 5:35 pm, lemmond...@msn.com wrote:
>
> > Texas 15 - North Texas 12
>
> > Congratulations to TUFF for taking sectionals! Franchise for
> > Callahan!
>
> > -Fred
>
> Observations from this game:
>
> The wind was strong enough that neither team was pulling farther than
> 40 yards. The short pulls meant quick downwind scores for much of the
> game. Both teams took very similar approaches to downwind offense,
> hucking early and often in preference to the risk of a short turnover.
> Early on, UNT sold out on defending the deep shot, and Texas used long
> under cuts to score easily. UNT adjusted in the second half with
> tighter defense, forcing more hucks from Texas. Texas tried to stop
> the punt by setting up a flat cup, but UNT (I think David Brooks)
> generally just fired it toward the endzone anyway, more or less
> indiscriminately. This was pretty successful in the second half, as
> Texas' deep defenders were making poor reads and UNT's athletic
> receivers were pulling discs down.
>
> The real story of the game was the upwind battle, and here the teams
> took different approaches. Texas relied on a hard fronting man
> defense, while UNT used a trap zone exclusively. UNT's offensive game
> plan was to isolate Kevin Richardson and let him launch a big
> backhand, hoping for a jump-ball catch from super-athletic Dan Emmons.
> Jeff Loskorn had the tough task of defending Emmons, at about four
> inches shorter. He was probably the hero of the game for Texas, ending
> several of UNT's most promising upwind drives with clutch defense in
> the air. In the second half, Richardson started gunning big inside-out
> flicks to cutters coming under on the break side, an effective
> adjustment until Texas went to an almost straight-up mark. Richardson
> is known for his receiving abilities, but has become an extremely
> dangerous thrower, with great length on his pivots and powerful hucks.
> Dave Ryan also fired some upwind rockets that gave UNT a chance to
> score.
>
> Texas had a little bit more consistent progress against the UNT zone.
> They seriously threatened on about five upwind drives throughout the
> game until they finally converted at 12-11. Stephen Presley was
> outstanding, throwing improbable cup breaks for big gains. Playing
> against a zone seems to take his throws to another level, and several
> of his laser backhands and hammers got audible reactions from the
> crowd. Steven Darroh and Judson Moore provided consistent zone
> handling and some timely cup breaks. Texas struggled with consistency
> after getting the disc upfield, often killing a fast-break situation
> with unforced errors. They were at their best when they used the
> middle space of the field, since UNT camped Emmons deep and he cleaned
> up every floating disc.
>
> Overall, the game was suprisingly fun to watch despite the wind and
> generally high number of turnovers. The level of play was intense and
> there were big plays on both sides. From a calling perspective, the
> game was very clean, with a low number of calls and an even lower
> number of disputes. The teams clearly have a lot of respect for each
> other.This would be a great rematch to see at regionals, athough I'd
> prefer to see it without such an overwhelming upwind/downwind
> component.

Wow, this was quite the writeup; impressive

You should consider a career in sports journalism...

- Doc
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17925 is a reply to message #17923] Tue, 07 April 2009 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kevin
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Yeah he is good at that.
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17926 is a reply to message #17925] Tue, 07 April 2009 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JephB
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On Apr 7, 12:44 pm, Kevin <kkr4...@truman.edu> wrote:
> Yeah he is good at that.

Yeah that is probably the best write up i have ever read of an
ultimate game.

Match should get out the notepad.

-JB
Re: 2009 Texas College Sectionals [message #17929 is a reply to message #17926] Tue, 07 April 2009 10:08 Go to previous message
Douglas T Lilley
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On Apr 7, 12:51 pm, JephB <FreeRonArt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 12:44 pm, Kevin <kkr4...@truman.edu> wrote:
>
> > Yeah he is good at that.
>
> Yeah that is probably the best write up i have ever read of an
> ultimate game.

Second that, it would be great to read that sort of concise,
informative writeup from the regionals and nationals. The stuff on
the offensive and defensive tactical adjustments during the game was
particularly well done.
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