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Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139511] Sun, 02 March 2014 15:42 Go to next message
anakin gerics
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Everyone knows and agrees that the ground tap rule is useless and senseless and serves no purpose for the sport of ultimate.....

....and it's use....is getting dumber and dumber.

i saw a kid walk to the line, ground tap, and the disc feel from their hand for a turn over.
a dropped disc while ground tapping for no reason...is a turn over....for no reason...no reason to lean over....and it caused a turnover.

other situations...
i saw, more than a handful of times....kids catch the disc NEAR the goal line.
they hadn't run in.....they didn't have to run out and re-establish themselves at the line....their momentum hadn't carried them into the endzone......
....but for some reason....their teammates start yelling at them to "TAP IT! TAP IT!"
so.....while the count continues...some kids...for no reason....are pressured to lean down and tap the disc on the ground for no reason.

as if the fact that there IS NO GOOD REASON for the ground tap wasn't enough.....now there are young kids leaning down and tapping the ground for ANOTHER NO GOOD REASON!

also...kids will pick the disc up in the middle of the field on turnovers...AND lean down to tap the disc on the ground for no reason.


dumbest rule in ultimate.

seriously...IS THERE ANYONE on the planet, or in the community....that can tell us WHY this is a rule?
WHY are throwers forced to lean down and tap the dsic on the ground for no reason?????
WHO invented this stupid rule?
what ding dong had what happen to them to make them decide that a ground tap would solve WHAT problem?

dumb rule.....no reason.....doesn't solve anything....doesn't make anything better.....no one knows why it's forced on throwers.....

abolish the ground tap......

curiously....are YOU going to start listing dumb reasons that AREN'T the reason for the ground tap????
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139530 is a reply to message #139511] Mon, 03 March 2014 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ultimate7
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I still like the rule, I believe it has reduced travel calls in walk up situations.

Pretty sad that someone couldn't execute a ground tap without dropping the disc.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139531 is a reply to message #139530] Mon, 03 March 2014 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EuhNGroups
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ultimate7 wrote on Mon, 03 March 2014 09:51
I still like the rule, I believe it has reduced travel calls in walk up situations.

Pretty sad that someone couldn't execute a ground tap without dropping the disc.



I like it too. When walking to the spot where I'm going to establish my pivot, I always like to be cocky and spin the disk around my finger to impress the other team.

Anyway, it's not a turnover under WFDF rules, so no need to eliminate the ground tap if the reason is solely to address accidental drops.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139532 is a reply to message #139531] Mon, 03 March 2014 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike gerics[1]
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> Anyway, it's not a turnover under WFDF rules, so no need to
>
> eliminate the ground tap if the reason is solely to address
>
> accidental drops.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


---there's no reason for it.....and a hinderance to a thrower for no reason.
those are the reasons.....to abolish it.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139547 is a reply to message #139532] Mon, 03 March 2014 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nick Ongpauco
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Is the other option just no ground tap and possession is established when they place their foot on w/e line/spot they are bringing the disc into play? Why don't we want a hinderance to the thrower? The ground tap stops someone from picking the disc up in the endzone, running it to the line and ripping it like a pull for an easier throw with momentum they should not have. Also it establishes a point in which the defender knows when they can start stalling as opposed to an argument about how the marker started counting before the thrower put their foot on the line. Also a good signal for the offense that the thrower is ready to start throwing. I prefer the ground tap any day to waiting for someone to tap (or some assholes who will slap hard) the disc in my hand
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139549 is a reply to message #139547] Mon, 03 March 2014 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bobus
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Here we go again...
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139550 is a reply to message #139549] Mon, 03 March 2014 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EuhNGroups
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Bobus wrote on Mon, 03 March 2014 18:26

Here we go again...



Before dying, RSD has to go through its senile phase
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139562 is a reply to message #139547] Tue, 04 March 2014 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anakin gerics
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> Is the other option just no ground tap and possession is
> established when they place their foot on w/e line/spot they
> are bringing the disc into play?


---yes.
~~~~~~~
Why don't we want a
> hinderance to the thrower?


---why do you want to? they're on offense...why should they have to pause or have to lean down into an unathletic position before throwing?
~~~~~~~~
The ground tap stops someone from
> picking the disc up in the endzone, running it to the line
> and ripping it like a pull for an easier throw with momentum
> they should not have.


---yeah....why?
if they set a pivot, what's wrong?
if i catch a swing pass, should i come to a complete stop and have to tap the disc on the ground so that i can't throw with momentum?
~~~~~~~~~~
Also it establishes a point in which
> the defender knows when they can start stalling as opposed
> to an argument about how the marker started counting before
> the thrower put their foot on the line.


---i always see the defender on stall 2 before the thrower is standing back up.
the defender is always counting, while the thrower is leaning down to tap.
OH...you're on one of those teams with defenders who don't know when to stall....got it.
check.
because your team doesn't know when to start stalling...all throwers have to lean down and senselessly tap the disc on the ground.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Also a good signal
> for the offense that the thrower is ready to start throwing.


---HEY! this is one of the top 3 stupidest reasons for the ground tap!
Congrats!
if YOUR team wants to have a READY,SET,HIKE signal to start YOUR team's offense...by all means....tap away...or clap the disc over your head...or shout BREAK! or GO!....
but that's no reason to force EVERY SINGLE THROWER on every single team to lean down and tap the disc on the ground.

oh....and here's another thing.....if the thrower's got the disc....and they've got a pivot foot on the field....guess what!.......they can start throwing without the need to lean down and tap the disc on the ground.(they're the thrower)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I prefer the ground tap any day to waiting for someone to
> tap (or some assholes who will slap hard) the disc in my
> hand


---i wouldn't wait.
why are you waiting?
if you're cool enough to put the disc out in front of you for a tap(or whatever you're talking about)....then you don't have to be cool enough to stand there and wait for a tap to throw the disc.
don't offer the disc for a tap.
~~~~~~~~~~~

i see.....you're just a sucker that don't know any better.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139563 is a reply to message #139549] Tue, 04 March 2014 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anakin gerics
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On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:27:04 PM UTC-5, Bobus wrote:
> Here we go again...
~~~~~~~


---YOU don't have to go again....but i see that you can't stay away.

some folks are ate up with that dumb ground tap and are fooled into thinking it's good for the game.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139569 is a reply to message #139511] Tue, 04 March 2014 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
briantboat
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"i saw a kid walk to the line, ground tap, and the disc feel from their hand for a turn over.
a dropped disc while ground tapping for no reason...is a turn over....for no reason...no reason to lean over....and it caused a turnover."

LOLZ! "It" (the ground tap) caused the turnover and not the player? We should probably get rid of hucks and dumps too, because those cause turnovers too.

Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139571 is a reply to message #139569] Tue, 04 March 2014 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anakin gerics
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On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:42:03 AM UTC-5, Brian wrote:
> "i saw a kid walk to the line, ground tap, and the disc feel
>
> from their hand for a turn over.
>
> a dropped disc while ground tapping for no reason...is a
>
> turn over....for no reason...no reason to lean over....and
>
> it caused a turnover."
>
>
>
> LOLZ! "It" (the ground tap) caused the turnover and not the
>
> player? We should probably get rid of hucks and dumps too,
>
> because those cause turnovers too.
~~~~~~~~~~

---not sure what LOLZ is.....is that an even lamer way to show that you're laughing?

and......i'm no reading expert.....but i see that you aren't either.
i didn't write that the ground tap caused the turnover.
and.....it's probably your throws that are causing the turnovers.....so why don't ya sit this one out little fella.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139611 is a reply to message #139547] Thu, 06 March 2014 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anakin gerics
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On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:09:03 PM UTC-5, cuatronicko wrote:
> Is the other option just no ground tap and possession is
>
> established when they place their foot on w/e line/spot they
>
> are bringing the disc into play?
~~~~~~~~~~~~

---any further thoughts about the ground tap...or my replies to your lame erroneous beliefs about the need for it?
it only took one post to change your opinion? good....maybe there's hope for you.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139613 is a reply to message #139611] Thu, 06 March 2014 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gregs
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He's a dog with an f'ing bone. You don't see these topics beaten to death on http://www.reddit.com/r/ultimate/.
Re: Ground tap rule....dumber than ever. [message #139617 is a reply to message #139613] Thu, 06 March 2014 14:25 Go to previous message
anakin gerics
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On Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:26:03 PM UTC-5, Greg Southfield wrote:
> He's a dog with an f'ing bone. You don't see these topics
> beaten to death on http://www.reddit.com/r/ultimate/.
~~~~~~~~~


---wow....couple errors here little fella.
i just went to r/sd....and found the same topics there....being discussed....by plenty of folks....over a long period of time.
and.....i've got one helluva bone.....and you're ridin' it again!
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