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Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136310] Mon, 30 September 2013 09:46 Go to next message
Mozaic
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So Truck made it through with not much competition as expected beating Dire wolf in final 15-10.

Although rumor has it that Oakland "threw" some games on Saturday to ensure an early match up on Sunday against Truck when all were fresh hoping to beat them early then cruise through the rest of the tournament.

If true, it leaves me thinking that the integrity of the tournament should come first when teams intentionally do this. I say throw them out of the tournament. I guess it is hard to prove, but as I was hearing the rumor midway through round 1 on Saturday, and results panned out that way, makes for a very strange coincidence.

Anyway, Oakland got rolled in Quarters against Truck, with Semis being played out between Truck/Garden State Ultimate and Dire Wolf/John Doe. Not sure where final positions were for 5-8 as scores not up on score reporter.

Other interesting by-plays

- Floodwall were knocked out in pool play after winning Capital Sectionals.

- Heva Havas / Lancaster win pool and knocked out in Quarters by John Doe who came in as 12th seed

- Kaptain Krunk? show up with 10 players on day 1. Not sure if they also played on day 2.


So final question is, when will a team come together in the MA region to give Truck a run now that Southpaw disbanded. Truck seems to have monopoly on top talent in the capital section (and i think pulled a few southpaw players). Which other areas can bring the talent together to claim the top spot.

Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136311 is a reply to message #136310] Mon, 30 September 2013 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Knappy
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The answer to your last question: best chance is a Philly/Pittsburgh core, with Pittsburgh college grads uniting with the best of Philly & south Jersey to form a regional team.

It'd be nice to see us keep the talent in-state rather than sending it to Austin, DC, Mixed.

Young core of players need to stop relying upon old dudes for leadership & build a program with a 5 year plan in place.





Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136312 is a reply to message #136311] Mon, 30 September 2013 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mozaic
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Knappy wrote on Mon, 30 September 2013 13:42
The answer to your last question: best chance is a Philly/Pittsburgh core, with Pittsburgh college grads uniting with the best of Philly & south Jersey to form a regional team.

It'd be nice to see us keep the talent in-state rather than sending it to Austin, DC, Mixed.

Young core of players need to stop relying upon old dudes for leadership & build a program with a 5 year plan in place.




Forgive my ignorance of history, but have there been any other successful teams where they form from 300 miles apart with what would effectively be two cores?

I would like to see the region become compeitive again and hopefully gain more than one national sport in the future, but can a team train and gain cohesiveness with such distance?

Agree with your latter points. I was disappointed that Southpaw players moved to play with Truck rather than develop local team / talent. Maybe that actually were moving to DC, but not sure on the circumstances.
Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136313 is a reply to message #136312] Mon, 30 September 2013 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mozaic
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Knappy, On a slightly off topic (hijack my own thread), looks like the Acapulco tournament is moving cross country to Cancun now. Still in January. Still Surf and Turf. From an earlier thread, I know you and Rich Frank are alums of Acapulco.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Caribbean-Ultimate-2014/71742 3968283623
Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136315 is a reply to message #136313] Mon, 30 September 2013 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Knappy
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have there been any other successful teams where they form from 300 miles apart with what would effectively be two cores?

the obvious example is Doublewide 2012 with Florida core joining Austin core

or, I believe Pike started out as Pittsburgh & Philly/NJ (thus the name -- turnpike) and later morphed into Philly/NJ with some NY & other regional pickups

I don't know enough about current open division & where everyone lives. My instinct is that the top teams are all regional teams now. Meaning, mostly players from 1 large metro area plus regional additions plus some out of region studs. Outside of Boston, San Fran, Seattle & maybe Atlanta, I don't think any one metro area can produce a top tier team without expanding their regional scope.


Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136316 is a reply to message #136313] Mon, 30 September 2013 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Knappy
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Cancun>Acapulco

Everyone should do that tournament at least once in their life. So much fun, it is illegal to hold it in the USA.
Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136317 is a reply to message #136312] Mon, 30 September 2013 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ryan3thompson
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Only Trey came from Philly to Truck Stop. Two other players from Southpaw last year live in DC. Southpaw players moved to: AMP, Termite's Entourage, Garden State Ultimate, Hypnotoad, Oakland, and Heva Havas.
Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136318 is a reply to message #136317] Mon, 30 September 2013 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mozaic
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ryan3thompson wrote on Mon, 30 September 2013 16:50
Only Trey came from Philly to Truck Stop. Two other players from Southpaw last year live in DC. Southpaw players moved to: AMP, Termite's Entourage, Garden State Ultimate, Hypnotoad, Oakland, and Heva Havas.


Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Mid Atlantic Regionals - Open [message #136335 is a reply to message #136312] Wed, 02 October 2013 13:14 Go to previous message
jake.smith84
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"I was disappointed that Southpaw players moved to play with Truck rather than
develop local team / talent. Maybe that actually were moving
to DC, but not sure on the circumstances."

Many did stick around to develop local talent. That's what some ex-Paw's did with teams like GSU & Hypnotoad.

Maybe the majority of Philly's best male players prefer to take Professional Ultimate more seriously than club. Maybe this will only mark a further downward trend of club ultimate in general. Maybe players will begin to feel that one minute on ESPN Sport Center's top 10 better than even a bid to WFDF Worlds to compete for a championship that almost no one outside the ultimate community will ever know about even if they win.


As someone who's spent all my ultimate life playing only for teams in NJ/Philly, it's actually really awesome to see so much parity & developing talent in the open Founders section especially. To the elite talent out there: why bother with elite club? Keep dispersing, expanding, and creating new teams....




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