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WHAT's the deeper motivation for wanting recognition for ultimate? [message #1302] Thu, 02 October 2008 07:04 Go to next message
h.infectious
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Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
O.k. So you want ultimate to get more exposure. It would be cool to
turn on the tube and there it is instead of sport stacking. It would
be nice if you didn't have to explain what the sport is so often. Etc,
etc.

But WHAT is motivating those wants? Deep down, WHY do you want a
higher level of recognition for the sport?

I believe answering this question is an important key to deciding how
you think ultimate should move forward with its development.
Re: WHAT's the deeper motivation for wanting recognition for ultimate? [message #1306 is a reply to message #1302] Thu, 02 October 2008 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
matty j
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Registered: October 2008
Senior Member
On Oct 2, 10:04 am, h.infecti...@gmail.com wrote:
> O.k. So you want ultimate to get more exposure. It would be cool to
> turn on the tube and there it is instead of sport stacking. It would
> be nice if you didn't have to explain what the sport is so often. Etc,
> etc.
>
> But WHAT is motivating those wants? Deep down, WHY do you want a
> higher level of recognition for the sport?
>
> I believe answering this question is an important key to deciding how
> you think ultimate should move forward with its development.

Reasons for wanting more exposure in media:
1. Sport becomes legitimate in eyes of public and local government/
town/school officials
2. Getting priority for field usage may become easier
3. Snowball effect - coverage begets more coverage begets more....
4. Kids and adults who never thought about playing or spectating will
do either or both
5. Potential sponsors take notice, some may even contact the upa with
offers
6. Sport becomes more professional in terms of how it is run,
organized as increased revenue flow generated by media exposure
enables the governing organization to hire better people by offering
more pay and more ability to pump money into a bottoms up growth
approach while simultaneously growing through a top down approach.
7. Ultimate joins the sports industry as a legitimate entity, many
more people than just a handful can get jobs in the industry and work
at something they love and have true passion for (announcers,
statisticians, referees, coaches, team owners/GMs).
8. Potential for fantastic ROI of UPA member dues/revenue if invested
in a professional league that is marketed to sponsors and shown on
ESPN
9. Frank has to eat his words

MJ
Re: WHAT's the deeper motivation for wanting recognition for ultimate? [message #1308 is a reply to message #1302] Thu, 02 October 2008 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
joadntoad
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Registered: September 2008
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On Oct 2, 10:04 am, h.infecti...@gmail.com wrote:
> O.k. So you want ultimate to get more exposure. It would be cool to
> turn on the tube and there it is instead of sport stacking. It would
> be nice if you didn't have to explain what the sport is so often. Etc,
> etc.
>
> But WHAT is motivating those wants?

cause our society is consumed with sports entertainment. we love it,
we crave it, its our escape. So its only natural that people that are
consumed and even obsessed with sports and sports entertainment would
want to see their sport presented in the same fasion that we see of
other sports that we EQUALLY loved playin (AND STILL LOVE WATCHIN) as
a kid.
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Deep down, WHY do you want a
> higher level of recognition for the sport?

aint nuthin deep about it. its just a form of entertainment. although
their might be somthing deep down inside of us that loves seein a
fight, gladiators in the coliseum, fighters in the ring. we wanna see
that shit at its most competitive and entertaining levels. Modern
spoetr have set the bar on what accepted and expected as "sports
entertainment". so just ask yourself.....is the sport of ultimate
doing enouph to catch up to those standards.......especially for those
of us that , for whatever our reason, want to see the sport aspire to
strive for that standard.

maybe the better question is, why dont you?
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>
> I believe answering this question is an important key to deciding how
> you think ultimate should move forward with its development.

yes it is.....so answere it.
What's YOUR deeper motivation for wanting recognition for ultimate? [message #1311 is a reply to message #1302] Thu, 02 October 2008 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
h.infectious
Messages: 9
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
On Oct 2, 10:04 am, h.infecti...@gmail.com wrote:
> O.k. So you want ultimate to get more exposure. It would be cool to
> turn on the tube and there it is instead of sport stacking. It would
> be nice if you didn't have to explain what the sport is so often. Etc,
> etc.
>
> But WHAT is motivating those wants? Deep down, WHY do you want a
> higher level of recognition for the sport?
>
> I believe answering this question is an important key to deciding how
> you think ultimate should move forward with its development.

Edited title for clarity.

And I will answer... first, I'm listening.
Re: What's YOUR deeper motivation for wanting recognition for ultimate? [message #1317 is a reply to message #1311] Thu, 02 October 2008 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
throw
Messages: 743
Registered: September 2008
Senior Member
In short, I think ultimate is one of the most enjoyable sports out
there to compete in.

Especially if you enjoy running.

I consider it far far more enjoyable than baseball.

A sport disc/ Frisbee is more engaging than a ball.

I grew up playing baseball, ice skating (Frockey doesn't get my vote),
soccer, tennis, racquetball...in that order....before getting truly
hooked on disc sports at age 14 or so.

I'm nothing of a sports junkie like many of us out here. Not to imply
I'm "different" or "unique."

I've simply "observed" pro sports my entire life as a cultural
phenomenon....not as entertainment. I've never followed a pro team of
any sport.

Another attraction for me early on was the folklore of disc sports.

Harvey J. Kukuk rules, etc.

Brow beating Toad aside....Toad and I both want the ultimate to move
onward and upward.

But I see the goal of ultimate reaching "pro sport levels" and mass
appreciation like baseball about as inviting or rewarding as that
mansion on the hill (materialism, american dream,etc.).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqa-hdul3X0

Big Hugs, etc.
Peter Mc
this is ultimate dot com
MDSC
Re: WHAT's the deeper motivation for wanting recognition for ultimate? [message #1322 is a reply to message #1302] Thu, 02 October 2008 09:16 Go to previous message
Tom Shane
Messages: 25
Registered: September 2008
Junior Member
h.infecti...@gmail.com wrote:
> O.k. So you want ultimate to get more exposure. It would be cool to
> turn on the tube and there it is instead of sport stacking. It would
> be nice if you didn't have to explain what the sport is so often. Etc,
> etc.
>
> But WHAT is motivating those wants? Deep down, WHY do you want a
> higher level of recognition for the sport?
>
> I believe answering this question is an important key to deciding how
> you think ultimate should move forward with its development.

Sluts dig athletes. End of story.
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