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WFDF Releases Worlds Spirit Scores, Canada Near Bottom [message #119446] Fri, 10 August 2012 09:40 Go to next message
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Re: WFDF Releases Worlds Spirit Scores, Canada Near Bottom [message #119447 is a reply to message #119446] Fri, 10 August 2012 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ceisenhood wrote on Fri, 10 August 2012 09:40

Another proof that Canadian chicks are easy (going)
Re: WFDF Releases Worlds Spirit Scores, Canada Near Bottom [message #119459 is a reply to message #119446] Fri, 10 August 2012 13:05 Go to previous message
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I'm surprised at how high Canada Open's score for knowledge of the rules was. And how Japan's was slightly less. Japan seem to have a very good understanding of the WFDF rules which makes sense since they play by them regularly. While I would blame Canada's lack of knowledge of the rules (and how upset they got over what they perceived as cheating) for the atrocity that was the 8-8 point.

Although the Japan vs Canada game was a bit chippy and physical initially, (mostly Japan's 29 vs. Collins and Sareglia and illegal physical marks all around) it really got bad after the rules argument.

I haven't seen anyone sum it up nicely but basically at 42:59 Menzies catches an upline and travels on the catch (rounded his path after the catch a bit IMO, although the Japanese could have called it on something else, like if he stepped out at all that would also be a travel since he didn't walk back ever).

The huck was D'ed but the Canadians used a misinterpretation of WFDF rules to say it should go back anyways.

Basically they ignored 16.1.1. and said since Menzies traveled before the throwing motion, the turn doesn't count.

But since the call was against the thrower, the turn should stand (which it does, eventually).

16.1. Whenever a foul or violation call is made, play stops immediately and no turn over is
16.1.1. However, if the foul or violation is called: against the thrower and the thrower subsequently attempts a pass, or when the thrower is in the act of throwing, or when the disc is in the air,
then play continues until possession has been established.

Japan stood up for the rule and didn't send it back despite Gabe S. being a complete dick. (btw the argument that: they weren't talking to us is BS- you guys are visiting their country and expect them to explain in their second language a very clearly defined rule that you're just ignorant of and yelling in their face...come on...) And in response you get the multiple dangerous bids and poor spirit.

-PS: can someone explain "our spirit compared to theirs"? What would be a cause for a low score there? Is that basically teams rating themselves? So teams are completely in control of their own spirit score in that category?
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